Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 74

Thread: Billboard considered for Arizona.

  1. #1
    Guest
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    958

    Post imported post

    ....with all due respect to folks outside "Lost Angles" Kally-foryna...

    (Message in Spanish also being considered)

  2. #2
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    166

    Post imported post

    What I find most interesting is the way one state is willing to turn on another in such a viscious manner. The balkanization seems well underway.

  3. #3
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Arlington, Washington, USA
    Posts
    374

    Post imported post

    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)

  4. #4
    Guest
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    958

    Post imported post

    canadian wrote:
    What I find most interesting is the way one state is willing to turn on another in such a viscious manner. The balkanization seems well underway.
    What I find interesting is there are MANY hard working, tax paying people in Sanctuary Cities who fail to understand just WHO pays for all those "FREE" bennies given to illegals.

    Hope you're not one of those clueless folks.

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Fairborn, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    13,063

    Post imported post

    This is exactly how the "Marketplace of States" should work.

    States that don't want to enforce the law and that welcomes freeloaders will attract folks who do illegal things and others who freeload (and those who do both). Those States will drive out producers (as California has been doing of late).

    States with reasonable enforcement of the law and that reward productivity will attract law-abiding producers and drive out criminals and freeloaders.

  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    222

    Post imported post

    GWbiker wrote:
    ....with all due respect to folks outside "Lost Angles" Kally-foryna...

    (Message in Spanish also being considered)
    Great billboard, but I disagree about the "plenty of jobs" part, unless you're talking about the migratory agricultural sector and temporary census worker jobs.


  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    PAHRUMP, Nevada, USA
    Posts
    245

    Post imported post

    GWbiker wrote:
    ....with all due respect to folks outside "Lost Angles" Kally-foryna...

    (Message in Spanish also being considered)
    awesome lets build a fence around california

  8. #8
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    491

    Post imported post

    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    No they can't. They could ask, each and every other state, and the congress to leave....if any of them said no, they would have to go to the Supreme Court. Again, all states and Congress would be parties and then say the compact they entered, was violated. If the Supreme's agreed, they they could leave.

    Anything short of that, would not work. They can not just pick up and leave the Union.

    Oh ya, or we could amend the US Constitution to allow for it.

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Fairborn, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    13,063

    Post imported post

    Shawn wrote:
    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    No they can't. They could ask, each and every other state, and the congress to leave....if any of them said no, they would have to go to the Supreme Court. Again, all states and Congress would be parties and then say the compact they entered, was violated. If the Supreme's agreed, they they could leave.

    Anything short of that, would not work. They can not just pick up and leave the Union.

    Oh ya, or we could amend the US Constitution to allow for it.
    Do you have a citation in the law or in court rulings for that?

  10. #10
    Founder's Club Member PrayingForWar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    The Real World.
    Posts
    1,705

    Post imported post

    eye95 wrote:
    Shawn wrote:
    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    No they can't. They could ask, each and every other state, and the congress to leave....if any of them said no, they would have to go to the Supreme Court. Again, all states and Congress would be parties and then say the compact they entered, was violated. If the Supreme's agreed, they they could leave.

    Anything short of that, would not work. They can not just pick up and leave the Union.

    Oh ya, or we could amend the US Constitution to allow for it.
    Do you have a citation in the law or in court rulings for that?
    I seem to recall that the last time states tried to break away it caused some "unpleasentness".
    If you ladies leave my island, if you survive recruit training. You will become a minister of death, PRAYING FOR WAR...

  11. #11
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Richmond, VA
    Posts
    1,415

    Post imported post

    Shawn wrote:
    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    No they can't. They could ask, each and every other state, and the congress to leave....if any of them said no, they would have to go to the Supreme Court. Again, all states and Congress would be parties and then say the compact they entered, was violated. If the Supreme's agreed, they they could leave.

    Anything short of that, would not work. They can not just pick up and leave the Union.

    Oh ya, or we could amend the US Constitution to allow for it.
    This always makes me laugh.

    Can you please cite for me a particular time in history wherein an individual state politely asked to be seceded from the primary nation, and they both agreed and had tea?

    Ireland tried for years. Lots of blood there.


    Want to see what happens when a nation falls apart both fundamentally, and geographically, to include the political ramifications?

    Look at the good ol CCCP.

    Certainly went pleasantly for them...
    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Personal responsibility is a facade created by religious people in particular...
    On "Personal Responsibility just after the previous, in the same exact thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Religion uses is as a tool, they did not create it.
    The wheels on the bus go round and round...round and round.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    You think that I am ill-equipped...hit me with your best shot Einstein, I am calling you out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Free will is only slightly a conscious exercise...

  12. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Fairborn, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    13,063

    Post imported post

    PrayingForWar wrote:
    eye95 wrote:
    Shawn wrote:
    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    No they can't. They could ask, each and every other state, and the congress to leave....if any of them said no, they would have to go to the Supreme Court. Again, all states and Congress would be parties and then say the compact they entered, was violated. If the Supreme's agreed, they they could leave.

    Anything short of that, would not work. They can not just pick up and leave the Union.

    Oh ya, or we could amend the US Constitution to allow for it.
    Do you have a citation in the law or in court rulings for that?
    I seem to recall that the last time states tried to break away it caused some "unpleasentness".
    Not all unpleasantness is constitutional. I am still waiting for citations supporting the rather bold assertions above.

  13. #13
    Regular Member Phoenix David's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Glendale, Arizona, USA
    Posts
    629

    Post imported post

    canadian wrote:
    What I find most interesting is the way one state is willing to turn on another in such a viscious manner. The balkanization seems well underway.
    Yes it is interesting that when Arizona decides to enforce laws other states/Government entities attempt to embargo us, which in some situations has been interpreted as an act of war.

    But these other states/Government entities lack the courage to follow through with all their posturing.
    Freedom is a bit like sex, when your getting it you take it for granted, when you're not you want it bad, other people get mad at you for having it and others want to take it away from you so only they have it.

  14. #14
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Fairfax Co., VA
    Posts
    18,766

    Post imported post

    Shouldn't the billboard be written in Spanish? With an English translation at the bottom?

    Oh, heck. If LA is willing to lie to themselves and the rest of the world about uncontrolled immigration, why not lie about LA? Just add "Free Corona" to the billboard.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

  15. #15
    Regular Member Brimstone Baritone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Leeds, Alabama, USA
    Posts
    786

    Post imported post

    Phoenix David wrote:
    canadian wrote:
    What I find most interesting is the way one state is willing to turn on another in such a viscious manner. The balkanization seems well underway.
    Yes it is interesting that when Arizona decides to enforce laws other states/Government entities attempt to embargo us, which in some situations has been interpreted as an act of war.

    But these other states/Government entities lack the courage to follow through with all their posturing.
    I wonder who came up with "Boycott Arizona". How dare other state governments and the federal government urge citizens to wage economic war on a fellow state of our union. I wish I could say it is the most mind blowing thing I has ever heard of, but I would be lying.

    I support Arizona trying to enforce the laws that the Feds just pretend aren't on the books.
    There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away, mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting. I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing. Doomed to crumble, unless we grow and strengthen our communication. -Tool, "Schism"

  16. #16
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    1,558

    Post imported post

    eye95 wrote:
    PrayingForWar wrote:
    eye95 wrote:
    Shawn wrote:
    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    No they can't. They could ask, each and every other state, and the congress to leave....if any of them said no, they would have to go to the Supreme Court. Again, all states and Congress would be parties and then say the compact they entered, was violated. If the Supreme's agreed, they they could leave.

    Anything short of that, would not work. They can not just pick up and leave the Union.

    Oh ya, or we could amend the US Constitution to allow for it.
    Do you have a citation in the law or in court rulings for that?
    I seem to recall that the last time states tried to break away it caused some "unpleasentness".
    Not all unpleasantness is constitutional. I am still waiting for citations supporting the rather bold assertions above.
    Judge Andrew Napolitano says that a state can leave the union at any time and explains how it can be done.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQpS1pLN8g

    Ron Paul says the same thing
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvliy8rEJDQ&feature=related

    None of the states who ratified the constitution or the articles of confederation would have done so if they could never leave.Secession is nullifying said Government and forming a new one over your own distinct area. How is that Rebellion? If they aren't doing their jobs right they deserve to be fired. In perhaps the most recent and powerful Tenth Amendment decision in modern history, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Mack/Printz v U.S. that "States´╗┐ are not subject to federal direction
    -I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you screw with me, I'll kill you all.
    -Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
    Marine General James Mattis,

  17. #17
    Regular Member SouthernBoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Western Prince William County, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    5,849

    Post imported post

    Arizona should turn the tables on Kalifornia for that state's absurd "boycott" illegal alien a-- kissing. When Kalifornia starts having brownouts this summer, Arizona should refuse to sell them electrical power. See how fast that gets the commies' attention.

    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    America First!

  18. #18
    Campaign Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    SOuth Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    503

    Post imported post

    I love it!!!!

  19. #19
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Fairborn, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    13,063

    Post imported post

    SouthernBoy wrote:
    Arizona should turn the tables on Kalifornia for that state's absurd "boycott" illegal alien a-- kissing. When Kalifornia starts having brownouts this summer, Arizona should refuse to sell them electrical power. See how fast that gets the commies' attention.
    That would be hard to pull off.

    Much easier is a 100% tax on movie tickets. That would put the pucker to some Hollywood lefties.

  20. #20
    Campaign Veteran GLOCK21GB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    4,348

    Post imported post

    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    and we all wish Kalifornia would leave... I prefer the , sliding into the ocean method.
    http://youtu.be/xWgVGu3OR4U AACFI, Wisconsin / Minnesota Carry Certified. Action Pistol & Advanced Action pistol concepts + Urban Carbine course. When the entitlement Zombies begin looting, pillaging, raping, burning & killing..remember HEAD SHOTS it's the only way to kill a Zombie. Stockpile food & water now.

    Please support your local,county, state & Federal Law enforcement agencies, right ???

  21. #21
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    PAHRUMP, Nevada, USA
    Posts
    245

    Post imported post

    Glock34 wrote:
    nofoa wrote:
    Remember our nation is a collection of individual states. They can leave the the union anytime they wish. (Theoretically.)
    and we all wish Kalifornia would leave... I prefer the , sliding into the ocean method.
    i told my brother not to move to oakland for that reason

  22. #22
    Regular Member Old Grump's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Blue River, Wisconsin, USA
    Posts
    387

    Post imported post

    I seem to recall that the last time states tried to break away it caused some "unpleasentness".
    It was unpleasant because they started shooting first.

    Nothing wrong that a change in the capitol can't correct, blaming all the people in California for their government is like blaming all of us for whats is sitting in the Whitehouse today.

    Personally I think the day will come soon when the real people in California and not the squeaky toys from Hollyweird and the gay streets of a few large cities will stand up and be counted. Fake Republicans and tree hugging parasites will become endangered.
    Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAF and CCRKBA

  23. #23
    Regular Member CrossFire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Irving, Texas, USA
    Posts
    408

    Post imported post

    Old Grump wrote:
    I seem to recall that the last time states tried to break away it caused some "unpleasentness".
    It was unpleasant because they started shooting first.

    Nothing wrong that a change in the capitol can't correct, blaming all the people in California for their government is like blaming all of us for whats is sitting in the Whitehouse today.

    Personally I think the day will come soon when the real people in California and not the squeaky toys from Hollyweird and the gay streets of a few large cities will stand up and be counted. Fake Republicans and tree hugging parasites will become endangered.

    One can only hope.


  24. #24
    Regular Member Huck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Evanston, Wyoming, USA
    Posts
    647

    Post imported post

    If that was to ever happen the people of California will still have decades of work ahead to un-do the damage done by almost half a century of demlib rule.
    "You can teach 'em, but you cant learn 'em."

  25. #25
    Guest
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    958

    Post imported post

    Nothing wrong that a change in the capitol can't correct, blaming all the people in California for their government is like blaming all of us for whats is sitting in the Whitehouse today.
    I often wonder if the **SUBJECTS** of California are either stoned on drugs, simply asleep or beyond hope while new legislations is formulated in Sacramento.

    Consider the state wide 10 day waiting period for firearm purchase in that "Land of fruits, nuts and flakes".

    The **SUBJECTS** were told the waiting period was good for crime prevention. So like innocent little children, they bought it.

    When later the LA Riots kicked off and thousands of "fruits, nuts and flakes" scurried off to local gun stores to buy home lethal protection for self and family, they were informed of the 10 day cooling off period.

    The shouting of "WHO IN THE HELL VOTED FOR THAT?" could be heard as far away as Yuma, I'm told.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •