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Pierce County Breaking the Law Starting June 16th:

gogodawgs

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deanf wrote:
This is the kind of small but important thing that the WAC should be all over (see my reply in recent thread about the WAC.)
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How is that? The exemption for CPL holders is still in place according to the new rules.

Only open carry is forgotten about....

I understand your premise, but how would an organization like WAC keep up to date and handle all of these types of issues. And if they do, they can put me on the payroll and I will personally monitor and work on these kind of things. :)
 
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SnarlyWino wrote:
Would an inquiry to the state attorney general's office not be in order?
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No it would not. He does not enforce law or bring criminal complaints forward. It needs to be a City or County attorney, and fat chance of that happening.
 
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gogodawgs wrote:
olypendrew wrote:
The best mechanism to force them to do what they are required to do is probably a writ of mandamus.
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So if there is not a positive response from the city and county council, et al, then I should go to the courthouse and be refused entry. (Sterile carry)

Then take that information to the Superior Court of Pierce County and petition for a writ of mandamus?
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Have a sheriff's deputy accompany you when you make your attempt.

When they refuse to check/receive your side arm, point out the (misdemeanor) criminal violation(s) of two seperate laws that just occurred in the deputy's presence. The deputy will then be REQUIRED to arrest (or at the very least cite and release) the one(s) responsible for violating the law or be placed in legal jeopardy themselves.

:celebrate
 
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Phssthpok wrote:
gogodawgs wrote:
olypendrew wrote:
The best mechanism to force them to do what they are required to do is probably a writ of mandamus.
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So if there is not a positive response from the city and county council, et al, then I should go to the courthouse and be refused entry. (Sterile carry)

Then take that information to the Superior Court of Pierce County and petition for a writ of mandamus?
Click to expand...

Have a sheriff's deputy accompany you when you make your attempt.

When they refuse to check/receive your side arm, point out the (misdemeanor) criminal violation(s) of two seperate laws that just occurred in the deputy's presence. The deputy will then be REQUIRED to arrest (or at the very least cite and release) the one(s) responsible for violating the law or be placed in legal jeopardy themselves.

:celebrate
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How did that work for you? We never did hear any outcome.
 
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Phssthpok wrote:
gogodawgs wrote:
olypendrew wrote:
The best mechanism to force them to do what they are required to do is probably a writ of mandamus.
Click to expand...

So if there is not a positive response from the city and county council, et al, then I should go to the courthouse and be refused entry. (Sterile carry)

Then take that information to the Superior Court of Pierce County and petition for a writ of mandamus?
Click to expand...

Have a sheriff's deputy accompany you when you make your attempt.

When they refuse to check/receive your side arm, point out the (misdemeanor) criminal violation(s) of two seperate laws that just occurred in the deputy's presence. The deputy will then be REQUIRED to arrest (or at the very least cite and release) the one(s) responsible for violating the law or be placed in legal jeopardy themselves.

:celebrate
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Between my friends and relatives, I have two friends who work for Kent PD, a cousin who works for Seattle PD, an uncle who works for King County Sheriff's Department, and another uncle who works for Seattle's DEA Field Office. I should bring this up to one of them.
 
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Aaron1124 wrote:
Phssthpok wrote:
gogodawgs wrote:
olypendrew wrote:
The best mechanism to force them to do what they are required to do is probably a writ of mandamus.
Click to expand...

So if there is not a positive response from the city and county council, et al, then I should go to the courthouse and be refused entry. (Sterile carry)

Then take that information to the Superior Court of Pierce County and petition for a writ of mandamus?
Click to expand...

Have a sheriff's deputy accompany you when you make your attempt.

When they refuse to check/receive your side arm, point out the (misdemeanor) criminal violation(s) of two seperate laws that just occurred in the deputy's presence. The deputy will then be REQUIRED to arrest (or at the very least cite and release) the one(s) responsible for violating the law or be placed in legal jeopardy themselves.

:celebrate
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Between my friends and relatives, I have two friends who work for Kent PD, a cousin who works for Seattle PD, an uncle who works for King County Sheriff's Department, and another uncle who works for Seattle's DEA Field Office. I should bring this up to one of them.
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Go to the courthouse with them!
 
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killchain wrote:
Aaron1124 wrote:
Phssthpok wrote:
gogodawgs wrote:
olypendrew wrote:
The best mechanism to force them to do what they are required to do is probably a writ of mandamus.
Click to expand...

So if there is not a positive response from the city and county council, et al, then I should go to the courthouse and be refused entry. (Sterile carry)

Then take that information to the Superior Court of Pierce County and petition for a writ of mandamus?
Click to expand...

Have a sheriff's deputy accompany you when you make your attempt.

When they refuse to check/receive your side arm, point out the (misdemeanor) criminal violation(s) of two seperate laws that just occurred in the deputy's presence. The deputy will then be REQUIRED to arrest (or at the very least cite and release) the one(s) responsible for violating the law or be placed in legal jeopardy themselves.

:celebrate
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Between my friends and relatives, I have two friends who work for Kent PD, a cousin who works for Seattle PD, an uncle who works for King County Sheriff's Department, and another uncle who works for Seattle's DEA Field Office. I should bring this up to one of them.
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Go to the courthouse with them!
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Wrong, have them go to the courthouse with you (you're the one pushing the buttons, not them).
 
killchain

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Statkowski wrote:
killchain wrote:
Aaron1124 wrote:
Phssthpok wrote:
gogodawgs wrote:
olypendrew wrote:
The best mechanism to force them to do what they are required to do is probably a writ of mandamus.
Click to expand...

So if there is not a positive response from the city and county council, et al, then I should go to the courthouse and be refused entry. (Sterile carry)

Then take that information to the Superior Court of Pierce County and petition for a writ of mandamus?
Click to expand...

Have a sheriff's deputy accompany you when you make your attempt.

When they refuse to check/receive your side arm, point out the (misdemeanor) criminal violation(s) of two seperate laws that just occurred in the deputy's presence. The deputy will then be REQUIRED to arrest (or at the very least cite and release) the one(s) responsible for violating the law or be placed in legal jeopardy themselves.

:celebrate
Click to expand...
Between my friends and relatives, I have two friends who work for Kent PD, a cousin who works for Seattle PD, an uncle who works for King County Sheriff's Department, and another uncle who works for Seattle's DEA Field Office. I should bring this up to one of them.
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Go to the courthouse with them!
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Wrong, have them go to the courthouse with you (you're the one pushing the buttons, not them).
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Yeah, have them go to the courthouse with you. And go with them too!

...grammar na -- Oh look a pistol!

1911.432x559.jpg
 
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Whatcom County courthouse asks for ID also which bugs me because I like to carry sterile.
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That's exactly the kind of thing the WAC should be handling. It's a minor annoyance, yes, but it's wrong and they should be aggressive about correcting it.
 
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Aaron1124 wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but what does carrying "sterile" mean?
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Not carrying any identifying documents so that said documents cannot be forceably obtained in an illegal manner during police interactions.
 
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Ah... I gotcha. I never leave the house without my ID. Are people saying that when they get in their vehicle, they don't bring their DL with them? Or they simply leave it in their vehicle when they get out?

God Forbid, if I were ever in a serious accident, or get severely injured somewhere, I'd WANT to have my ID on me so it can be reported to my family.
 
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on kiro7 last night they specifically said that those who are legally carrying with CPL or open will still be able to store their firearms at the courthouse.
 
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Yeah, have them go to the courthouse with you. And go with them too!

...grammar na -- Oh look a pistol!


1911.432x559.jpg

I about tripped over my tounge ! :celebrate
 
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I can just see the GeheimStatsPolitzei asking "Ihre Papieren, bitte!" ...although, with the tone of voice, I doubt the "bitte" part was sincere....

Oh, wait, we don't have a Gestapo, do we? (Well, not yet anyway, although J. Edgar sure tried to have one...)
 
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