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    Technically speaking, can I open carry in a bank? I have not been able to talk to an officer about this so I figured I would ask all of you, someone is bound to know.

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    A bank is private property, just like any other store. It is not against the law to OC there. They might have a policy against carrying any guns into their bank ( like Chase ) but most likely it won't be an issue.

    You should try searching on this forum, this has been covered many times.
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    why in the hell would you want to ask an officer!!!???
    the answer to your question is YES!!!
    banks can have their own policy about guns,, but most follow state law.
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    I Oc in my Bank all the time.In fact my bank just got a new manager who promptly started talking about his Glocks .Him and Spyder would really get along they are both block guys.My daughter as I have mentioned is a Chase manager and and doesn't care if you Oc in her bank.It seems up to the individual managers..

    And don't be asking LE for info..they are not going to give you the correct information and you don't need their permission.

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    There is no WA State or federal law against carrying in a bank. However I have heard of people being asked to leave and there was one thread I saw where the police later visited a guy at his home. It is up to the bank to make their own policy, being they are private property. My bank is in Walmart and I open carry when ever I go there with out a problem.

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    Deros was checking on the whole Chase thing, His daughter works at one. I wonder if he ever found anything out?

    Edit: 3 people posted in like 3 seconds, theres your answer on that.
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    SpyderTattoo wrote:
    A bank is private property, just like any other store.* It is not against the law to OC there.* They might have a policy against carrying any guns into their bank ( like Chase ) but most likely it won't be an issue.*

    You should try searching on this forum, this has been covered many times.
    I searched once with no luck so I just figured I would ask. It was much easier...I got like 5 responses in like 3 min lol Thanks for the info man.

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    why in the hell would you want to ask an officer!!!???
    the answer to your question is YES!!!
    banks can have their own policy about guns,, but most follow state law.
    Why not talk to law enforcement? Not all law enforcement personnel are against OC. In fact, for the most part I have not had a problem oc around Cheney police/EWU police.

    When I called and talked to someone at the cheney police department (I dont think it was an officer) he said that someone OC'ing in a bank would raise a lot of suspicion. So I said that I was aware it may raise suspicion, but was it illegal. He said he did not believe it was, but was not 100% sure.

    Also, the answer to my question is NOT yes. The answer is that I CAN OC in a bank unless they have a posted sign that says they otherwise, or I am asked to leave.

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    please dont waste time nit-picking my response. YES you CAN, OC in a bank.
    you got 5 correct answers from the forum in just a few minutes, plus..
    the cops actually told you the lawfull truth...
    i have followed your own saga,, i know you were screwed,,and still await you vindication!

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    1245A Defender wrote:
    please dont waste time nit-picking my response.** YES you CAN, OC in a bank.
    you got 5 correct answers from the forum in just a few minutes, plus..
    the cops actually told you the lawfull truth...
    i have followed your own saga,, i know you were screwed,,and still await you vindication!
    Please dont take my response as nit-picking, I was just replying and emphasizing for any future readers. I apologize that I came off rude and greatly appreciate your response as well as your following of my current conundrum.

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    w07rolla wrote:

    Why not talk to law enforcement? Not all law enforcement personnel are against OC.
    Not all law enforcement personnel are lawyers either.


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    Poosharker wrote:
    w07rolla wrote:

    Why not talk to law enforcement? Not all law enforcement personnel are against OC.
    Not all law enforcement personnel are lawyers either.
    Not all law enforcement have memorized every businesses company policy on firearms.
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    w07rolla wrote:

    Also, the answer to my question is NOT yes. The answer is that I CAN OC in a bank unless they have a posted sign that says they otherwise, or I am asked to leave.
    They can have huge signs with flashing lights and neons that say NO FIREARMS!!! and you CAN still LEGALLY walk into the bank.
    Odds are that you will not be very welcomed and will be asked to leave fairly fast.

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    amzbrady wrote:
    Poosharker wrote:
    w07rolla wrote:

    Why not talk to law enforcement? Not all law enforcement personnel are against OC.
    Not all law enforcement personnel are lawyers either.
    Not all law enforcement have memorized every businesses company policy on firearms.
    Most logical answer here.

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    Asking law enforcement on these issue can be correct to completely wrong as some will make it up as they go and thus why there are issues of open carry with different officers and cities.

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    w07rolla wrote:
    1245A Defender wrote:
    why in the hell would you want to ask an officer!!!???
    the answer to your question is YES!!!
    banks can have their own policy about guns,, but most follow state law.
    Why not talk to law enforcement? Not all law enforcement personnel are against OC. In fact, for the most part I have not had a problem oc around Cheney police/EWU police.

    When I called and talked to someone at the cheney police department (I dont think it was an officer) he said that someone OC'ing in a bank would raise a lot of suspicion. So I said that I was aware it may raise suspicion, but was it illegal. He said he did not believe it was, but was not 100% sure.

    Also, the answer to my question is NOT yes. The answer is that I CAN OC in a bank unless they have a posted sign that says they otherwise, or I am asked to leave.

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    gogodawgs wrote:
    w07rolla wrote:
    1245A Defender wrote:
    why in the hell would you want to ask an officer!!!???
    the answer to your question is YES!!!
    banks can have their own policy about guns,, but most follow state law.
    Why not talk to law enforcement? Not all law enforcement personnel are against OC. In fact, for the most part I have not had a problem oc around Cheney police/EWU police.

    When I called and talked to someone at the cheney police department (I dont think it was an officer) he said that someone OC'ing in a bank would raise a lot of suspicion. So I said that I was aware it may raise suspicion, but was it illegal. He said he did not believe it was, but was not 100% sure.

    Also, the answer to my question is NOT yes. The answer is that I CAN OC in a bank unless they have a posted sign that says they otherwise, or I am asked to leave.

    Josh
    Wouldn't you be better to call the Judge and ask the court? LEO will not decide what is law, the judge will! Josh, you! should know that... what ever a LEO says will not hold up in court.
    What matters is what the prosecutor believes. If the prosecutor does not believe you are in violation, then you'll never have to make a case in front of a judge.
    What do you mean by "what ever a LEO says will not hold up in court."?

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    Sorry I said that to quickly.

    A police officer does not offer opinions that hold up in court, by definition that is not his job.

    You are correct the prosecutor's opinion is more valuable in the appliance of the law.

    You are better to ask the prosecutor for an opinion.
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    gogodawgs wrote:
    Sorry I said that to quickly.

    A police officer does not offer opinions that hold up in court, by definition that is not his job.

    You are correct the prosecutor's opinion is more valuable in the appliance of the law.

    You are better to ask the prosecutor for an opinion.
    Oh, no problem. I was just curious as to what you meant by that. I agree that the opinion of an officer is closer to irrelevant, considering it isn't their duty to give legal interpretations.

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    BigDave wrote:
    Asking law enforcement on these issue can be correct to completely wrong as some will make it up as they go and thus why there are issues of open carry with different officers and cities.

    Confucius says Tell a man an answer to one question and he will return soon for a similar one, give him the tools to do his research and he learns the information and where to reference his questions on this topic in the future.

    RCW 9.41.280
    Possessing dangerous weapons on school facilities
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.280

    RCW 9.41.300 Weapons prohibited in certain places....

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300

    Outdoor music festivals
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=70.108.150 with the definition of what a music festival is http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=70.108.020




    I read RCW 9.41.300 (I have the OC brochure) but was still unsure after reading it.

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    w07rolla wrote:
    I read RCW 9.41.300 (I have the OC brochure) but was still unsure after reading it.
    If it is not listed in the RCW's it is not illegal.
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    Does anyone NOT read the FAQ's ?????

    I might as well get them deleted .......................

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    M1Gunr wrote:
    Does anyone NOT read the FAQ's ?????

    I might as well get them deleted .......................
    No don't do that lol, if they didn't there would be a whole lot more questions in the forum that have been covered time and time again.

    As we have seen in the past some are still in the mode it is easier to get a fast answer (sometimes needed) but avoid taking that extra step to building a good foundation of knowledge.
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