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    If the OC ban passes if I understand corectly it will not ban UOC of long guns. Will anyone start to carry long guns? Would this be our next step? Would anyone be interested in having a long gun meet up befor the ban is past to test the waters? Let's have a long gun discussion.
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    Long Guns still have to be Unloaded, per Penal Code 12031(e).

    You may soon have to Register it as well to California.

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    ryanburbridge wrote:
    If the HANDGUN OC ban passes if I understand corectly it will not ban UOC of long guns. Will anyone start to carry long guns? Would this be our next step? Would anyone be interested in having a long gun meet up befor the ban is past to test the waters? Let's have a long gun discussion.
    Thanks this is for info only I could be totally out of touch.
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    Yes, those who have enjoyed handgun open carry will likely merge into long gun open carry in the event that AB1934 does become law. I will not commence LGUOC unless it has been made necessary by our legislature.
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    ryanburbridge wrote:
    If the OC ban passes if I understand corectly it will not ban UOC of long guns. Will anyone start to carry long guns? Would this be our next step? Would anyone be interested in having a long gun meet up befor the ban is past to test the waters? Let's have a long gun discussion.
    Thanks this is for info only I could be totally out of touch.
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    OLL AK47s are way less intimidating to the public than pistols. I will be carrying one post 1934 though.

    plus you can openly transport a long gun through a school zone (IIRC, IANAL), so driving from your house to your destination will be much easier. i dont think you can hang out at a location inside of a school zone though.

    another advantage to long gun carry is that you can sling it around your body so BGs and cops will have a hard time getting to it, and you have a sweet club its too late to load.
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    dirtykoala wrote:
    plus you can openly transport a long gun through a school zone (IIRC, IANAL), so driving from your house to your destination will be much easier. i dont think you can hang out at a location inside of a school zone though.
    Yay, the urban dwellers finally can carry! I'm sure I'll be a big hit in SF.

    another advantage to long gun carry is that you can sling it around your body so BGs and cops will have a hard time getting to it, and you have a sweet club its too late to load.
    Very true. Throw a rifle or shotgun with a sling over your shoulder and put on a long coat and you're good to go. Now I just have to think how I can lean my rifle on the dinner table. Can I get the booth? Maybe that table by the wall? Thanks.

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    I'll be right out there with you guys with my Mini 30 if AB1934 passes

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    Hmmm,


    Guess we can UOC long guns in San Fran and West Hollyweird.

    Guess I'll have to modify my rem 870 so it has a folding stock, 7 to 8 shot tube, side saddle with shells, and a sling with shells.

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    I have this picture in my mind of me in the supermarket pushing a cart with my Browning 7mm Rem mag with a 4 X 12 Leupold scope slung on my shoulder. :what:
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    Been there.


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    Thanks for the response. It's nice to know I'm not the only one not going to give up without a fight. Anyone ready for a LGUOC meet up?
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    I am ready,

    My 12 gauge pump Remington will be ready for pick up this weekend.
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    Here's an old one from my collection:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTgsuK9DHwM



    I've always been partial to long guns.

    Shotguns, rifles, carbines. Up until some months ago Istill had a scabbard on my bicycle.



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    I may just have to get some mag pouches for my mini-14.
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    ryanburbridge wrote:
    Thanks for the response. It's nice to know I'm not the only one not going to give up without a fight. Anyone ready for a LGUOC meet up?
    No. As yet, I do not see any reason to commence the carry of long guns when it has not been made necessary or productive. I would say we should focus on handguns or pistols until we are given no other alternative.
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    ryanburbridge wrote:
    Thanks for the response. It's nice to know I'm not the only one not going to give up without a fight. Anyone ready for a LGUOC meet up?
    No. As yet, I do not see any reason to commence the carry of long guns when it has not been made necessary or productive. I would say we should focus on handguns or pistols until we are given no other alternative.
    I will second that. We should remain reasonable at all turns. Be reasonable with handgun open carry. When they take that away from us then long gun open carry. When asked why at that point we have a reason.

    Now, the real issue is that long guns per state law or 626.9 is not as difficult as handguns, but for the Federal you still need to worry a little.

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    I have to agree with the sentiments above: don't UOC long guns for the time being. If AB1934 becomes law then by all means, execise what is uninfringed. For some of us this means folding .22 rifles with tech sights or reticles. Personally I would prefer a semi-collapsible PC-9 just to keep from having to buy more ammo. Keep in mind there are still plenty of people who have hi-cap mags for their rifles that are totally legal.
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    Long gun UOC.
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    yea ill probably carry my SxS 12 gauge..... or my ak....or my ar 15..... maybe my mosin-nagant....... mossberg...... ahh the possiblities......

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    Do you think that "all those people" that Lori Saldana said had to run away in fear would be more fearful of this site walking down the street?

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    Great response to my question. Thanks. Because a long gun by definition can not be concealed can I wrap my ar15 in a shemagh to break up the pattern and keep peoples awareness down as not to scare people that are not as keen to what I am carrying? I will carry but out of respect try to reduce negative attention. Wold this fall under a disguised weapon? Let's add other questions and answers to this thread so we can be prepared the day after the ban. What other alternatives have you guys come up with? Because I have started to carry for self defence not a political statement I will continue after the ban any way legally allowed.
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    ryanburbridge wrote:
    Great response to my question. Thanks. Because a long gun by definition can not be concealed can I wrap my ar15 in a shemagh to break up the pattern and keep peoples awareness down as not to scare people that are not as keen to what I am carrying? I will carry but out of respect try to reduce negative attention. Wold this fall under a disguised weapon? Let's add other questions and answers to this thread so we can be prepared the day after the ban. What other alternatives have you guys come up with? Because I have started to carry for self defence not a political statement I will continue after the ban any way legally allowed.
    I would not wrap it in the shemagh, that would be considered concealed. For ease of carrying,I use ascabbard for my Mossberg 590 or just sling over your back.

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    I would not wrap it in the shemagh, that would be considered concealed.
    It is not illegal to conceal a long gun. Only pistols, revolvers, and other firearms with barrels shorter than 16" may not be concealed without a permit.



    PC 12025:

    (a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
    he or she does any of the following:
    (1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her
    control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
    of being concealed upon the person.
    (2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver,
    or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
    (3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he
    or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
    of being concealed upon the person.



    PC 12001:

    (a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
    "revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
    shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
    weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
    explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
    than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
    has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
    interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.
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    wewd wrote:
    CREWDAD wrote:
    I would not wrap it in the shemagh, that would be considered concealed.
    It is not illegal to conceal a long gun. Only pistols, revolvers, and other firearms with barrels shorter than 16" may not be concealed without a permit.



    PC 12025:

    (a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
    he or she does any of the following:
    (1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her
    control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
    of being concealed upon the person.
    (2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver,
    or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
    (3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he
    or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
    of being concealed upon the person.



    PC 12001:

    (a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
    "revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
    shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
    weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
    explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
    than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
    has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
    interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.
    These terms also include any device that
    has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
    interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.

    My ar15 is an M4 type rifle. It can and was intended to have a 14" barrel. If i conceal this rifle could this part of the law be used against me?

    "If squirt guns are outlawed, only outlaw squirts will have guns!"

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