Long Gun Open Carry

Great response to my question. Thanks. Because a long gun by definition can not be concealed can I wrap my ar15 in a shemagh to break up the pattern and keep peoples awareness down as not to scare people that are not as keen to what I am carrying? I will carry but out of respect try to reduce negative attention. Wold this fall under a disguised weapon? Let's add other questions and answers to this thread so we can be prepared the day after the ban. What other alternatives have you guys come up with? Because I have started to carry for self defence not a political statement I will continue after the ban any way legally allowed.

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I would not wrap it in the shemagh, that would be considered concealed.

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PC 12025:

(a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
he or she does any of the following:
(1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her
control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.
(2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver,
or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he
or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.



PC 12001:

(a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
"revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.

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CREWDAD wrote:

I would not wrap it in the shemagh, that would be considered concealed.

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It is not illegal to conceal a long gun. Only pistols, revolvers, and other firearms with barrels shorter than 16" may not be concealed without a permit.

PC 12025:

(a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
he or she does any of the following:
(1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her
control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.
(2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver,
or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he
or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.



PC 12001:

(a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
"revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.

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wewd wrote:

CREWDAD wrote:

I would not wrap it in the shemagh, that would be considered concealed.

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It is not illegal to conceal a long gun. Only pistols, revolvers, and other firearms with barrels shorter than 16" may not be concealed without a permit.

PC 12025:

(a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when
he or she does any of the following:
(1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her
control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.
(2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver,
or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he
or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable
of being concealed upon the person.



PC 12001:

(a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
"revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.

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These terms also include any device that
has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.

My ar15 is an M4 type rifle. It can and was intended to have a 14" barrel. If i conceal this rifle could this part of the law be used against me?

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I have to agree with the sentiments above: don't UOC long guns for the time being. If AB1934 becomes law then by all means, execise what is uninfringed. For some of us this means folding .22 rifles with tech sights or reticles. Personally I would prefer a semi-collapsible PC-9 just to keep from having to buy more ammo. Keep in mind there are still plenty of people who have hi-cap mags for their rifles that are totally legal.

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@ CREWDAD: I like that scabbard! Maybe I could draft a pattern for one of those...I'd like to see what one would look like made from some brocade fabric. Hell, there might even be a market for that - decorative long gun scabbards for women! LOL!

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Why wait until after it passes? Whats the big deal. Long Guns out on the streets Now might help save the whole thing- Nobody would want to outlaw handguns if there were people with rifles walking around place to place---would they7? I think this is a good way to go on the offense by exercising our 2A. Doing it now before that bill passes might ignite more interest. Maybe they would give up on the bill feeling like they are wasting their time outlawing handguns... I think its a great Idea but why wait until we are defeated to turn up the heat? Peaceful unloaded open carry in CA- We will never turn around unless attention is brought upon our issue in support of-the right to defend yourself and your country under God. Whoever you say He is.

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Why wait until after it passes? Whats the big deal. Long Guns out on the streets Now might help save the whole thing- Nobody would want to outlaw handguns if there were people with rifles walking around place to place---would they7? I think this is a good way to go on the offense by exercising our 2A. Doing it now before that bill passes might ignite more interest. Maybe they would give up on the bill feeling like they are wasting their time outlawing handguns...

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