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Thread: Just Got Kicked Out of Valero Cornerstore in Falcon

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    Okay, so I went in to Falcon to pick up gas, cigarettes and a movie. I, as usual, had absolutely no issues with Wal-Mart and got to peruse a little bit with not even a second glance. Once I was done there I went to the Cornerstore on Highway 24 and Meridian Rd.

    When I went in there was a woman in front of me. She thanked me for being polite (I let her go ahead of me because she was in the store first) and then went on her way. I noticed that she looked at my Ruger a few times before she left, but didn't figure anything else was going to happen as I have shopped there many times before while carrying.

    There was a new guy (new to me) behind the counter I told him what I needed and as soon as he scanned the cigarettes as he walked back to the counter he said "Are you in law enforcement?"

    I was going to say "Nope, just a law abiding citizen" or something to that effect, but I only got "No" out before he cut me off.

    He then said something very rapidly about not being allowed to bring the gun in. I responded with "Can I ask why?"

    His exact words were "You can't do that without a permit and then you have to conceal it!"

    I responded with "Actually, in the state of Colorado you can open carry without a permit."

    "Well, not in this store. Don't bring your weapon in with you next time you come in." He said.

    I then asked if he was the manager and he said "no, but you can discuss this with him tomorrow."

    I asked for the number (meaning the number to the store) because I wasn't going to drive twenty-five miles back tomorrow just to talk to him and he said that he wasn't going to give me his manager's personal number. I'm fine with that, but when I asked for the store's number he said that it was on the outside of the building; it's just the corporate number. I finished getting my gas, took down the corporate number and left.

    When I got home I called them, but they're closed. I will be following up with a phone call to the manager of the store itself as well as with the corporate offices and likely a complaint against the cashier for the rudeness. I just wanted to post to let everyone in the area know to watch it if you go in there at night the guy will likely give you a hard time about carrying.

    I will update tomorrow night after I talk to the manager and corporate offices.

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    Man to bad that place is about a hour drive from me or else I would open carry there and see what happens.

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    Well, I just talked to the store manager and a customer service rep at corporate. The rep was unsure of the rule, she seemed to think that it was more in line with state law. However, she was in Texas and only had concealed to go off of. The manager said that it was corporate policy to only allow concealed weapons in the store.

    Thankfully, the customer service rep also said that she would forward the complaint on to the regional manager to see if I could get a more precise answer than what she could offer. So, while I'm hoping the regional manager will disprove this in the next few hours, it appears that Valero Cornerstores, Diamond Shamrock and Shamrock convenience stores are off limits to open carriers.



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    I open carry at the local Valero's all the time.

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    It sounds to me like this was simply an anti-gun employee who had a problem with you carrying a gun and that the manager is just backing up his employee (especially since you've carried there before). But I'm interested in what the regional manager says.
    "There are those who still think they are holding the pass against a revolution that may be coming up the road. But they are gazing in the wrong direction. The revolution is behind them. It went by in the Night of Depression, singing songs of freedom" -- Garet Garrett, The Revolution Was (1938)

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    entartet17 wrote:
    It sounds to me like this was simply an anti-gun employee who had a problem with you carrying a gun and that the manager is just backing up his employee (especially since you've carried there before). But I'm interested in what the regional manager says.
    This is my bet as well as I OC in the Valero down the street from me quite often among others and have never had a peep said about it.

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    Any signage on the doors?

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    Policy aside, there is no excuse for the rudeness. I wouldn't be back with or without my weapon.

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    Okay... So I just got off the phone with Phil, the regional manager, and he said that as long as it's legal he doesn't care how anyone carries in the store. When I asked him directly if I could continue to open carry in the store he said "yeah" and was very apologetic for the rudeness of the employee. After this I will definitely be using the Cornerstore whenever I can as the management and corporate customer service rep were all extremely polite and tried to remedy the situation as quickly as possible.

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    ZackL wrote:
    Okay... So I just got off the phone with Phil, the regional manager, and he said that as long as it's legal he doesn't care how anyone carries in the store. When I asked him directly if I could continue to open carry in the store he said "yeah" and was very apologetic for the rudeness of the employee. After this I will definitely be using the Cornerstore whenever I can as the management and corporate customer service rep were all extremely polite and tried to remedy the situation as quickly as possible.
    Cool. Now your next mission is to find out when Mr. Pissy is working again so you can make a point of stopping by while wearing your best sh** eating grin along with your OC and ask him how his chat with Phil went.

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    lol I'm not a vindictive person though. I generally just let things go after it's said and done, but I'm not going to avoid any of the Valero stores because of who might be working.

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    Normally I'm not either but I've got really thin tolerance for stupidity and arrogance.

    Personally I'd go in with every inch of my waistband populated with a firearm, but that's me.

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    lol If I had enough to do it, that wouldn't be a bad idea. I think that anyone who can, should visit this store open carrying. I'll be back in there soon enough, too.

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    RockyMtnScotsman wrote:
    Personally I'd go in with every inch of my waistband populated with a firearm, but that's me.
    Didn't Wyatt Cenac do that?

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    mahkagari wrote:
    RockyMtnScotsman wrote:
    Personally I'd go in with every inch of my waistband populated with a firearm, but that's me.
    Didn't Wyatt Cenac do that?
    I had to google that name and still don't know who it is ... guess I'm an old fart

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    Not your fault. I was testing to see just how obscure the reference was. It's from when the founders of this forum went on a fake news show:

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...discrimination

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    Zack, very cool that you got this resolved so quickly, I have had no problems here in Douglas County with any of the gas station/convenience stores.

    Second, can we refrain from quoting someones entire post that is directly above the post you are making, I know it is your choice but we don't need to make posts so long. I like reading the immediate responses and I can understand if you are taking a post from a different page or something but lets try to keep things in check... just my two worthless cents..

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    Zack, very cool that you got this resolved so quickly, I have had no problems here in Douglas County with any of the gas station/convenience stores.

    Second, can we refrain from quoting someones entire post that is directly above the post you are making, I know it is your choice but we don't need to make posts so long. I like reading the immediate responses and I can understand if you are taking a post from a different page or something but lets try to keep things in check... just my two worthless cents..
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    RockyMtnScotsman wrote:
    ColoradoFlyer wrote:
    Zack, very cool that you got this resolved so quickly, I have had no problems here in Douglas County with any of the gas station/convenience stores.

    Second, can we refrain from quoting someones entire post that is directly above the post you are making, I know it is your choice but we don't need to make posts so long. I like reading the immediate responses and I can understand if you are taking a post from a different page or something but lets try to keep things in check... just my two worthless cents..
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    Colorado Gun Owners - COGO
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    A discussion forum for Colorado Gun Owners.

    Colorado Firearm law.
    http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/colorado/
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    Beau wrote:
    RockyMtnScotsman wrote:
    ColoradoFlyer wrote:
    Zack, very cool that you got this resolved so quickly, I have had no problems here in Douglas County with any of the gas station/convenience stores.

    Second, can we refrain from quoting someones entire post that is directly above the post you are making, I know it is your choice but we don't need to make posts so long. I like reading the immediate responses and I can understand if you are taking a post from a different page or something but lets try to keep things in check... just my two worthless cents..
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    Who says OCers are troublemakers?

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    ^ I lol'd

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    I had an instance in Vegas, very similar. I dont tell anyone "I worked in law enforcement, still consult..."

    after getting a lecture, my response was simply "When you have a building fall and almost kill you on sept 11th then please lecture me."


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    All right, you guys have gotten me to go there OC to see what would happen. I used the wash room and got some candy, more to stand in line than anything else. I let a woman go in front of me because her arms were full, and yes Zack, she was in the store ahead of me. Nothing was said by anyone, except for the woman, who called me a gentleman. Counter man was Steve; brown and brown, mostly bald, short mustache.

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    Machoduck,

    Was this a local to you Valero or are you in the Springs area? In any case, I'm glad you had a good experience.

    I went in once since this happened when I was passing through Falcon and needed gas and it went fine. Not a single word or a second glance, which was normal for every other visit I had had before being thrown out by the newer clerk.

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