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    http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll...amp;source=RSS

    It doesn't state he was open carrying, just that it was visible.... he's being charged with disorderly conduct. Of course not much more information is provided so who knows.

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    If all he did was have it on him, the police overreacted and this hopefully will be settled in court that this guy did nothing wrong.

    If it goes the other way and all he did was OC it could be very troubling.

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    I thought NH law protected gun owners from being charged with these types of crimes simply for exercising their rights. Brandishing was another issue but simply carrying in a non-threatening manner I thought was protected?

    I just spend 30 min. or so trying to find anRSA to back this up but I've come up dry. I found some stuff insinuating this but nothing to back it up.

    Anyone know for sure who can cite the RSA?

    **EDIT: Another 20 min. digging through RSA 159 and the NH constitution. Nothing explicitly preventing these charges but plenty of stuff protecting the right to "BEAR" arms.


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    Typical Portsmouth ******* judge. You guys need to kick out the democrat scum that's effectively ruined the state. November is coming.
    "For any man who sheds his blood with me this day shall be my brother...And gentlemen now abed shall think themselves accursed, they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whilst any speaks who fought with us on Crispin's day." Henry V

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    nhoc wrote:
    I thought NH law protected gun owners from being charged with these types of crimes simply for exercising their rights. Brandishing was another issue but simply carrying in a non-threatening manner I thought was protected?

    I just spend 30 min. or so trying to find anRSA to back this up but I've come up dry. I found some stuff insinuating this but nothing to back it up.

    Anyone know for sure who can cite the RSA?

    **EDIT: Another 20 min. digging through RSA 159 and the NH constitution. Nothing explicitly preventing these charges but plenty of stuff protecting the right to "BEAR" arms.
    No RSA persay, but the NH constitution states:

    [Art.] 2-a. [The Bearing of Arms.] All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property and the state.
    December 1, 1982

    No RSA makes open carry illegal; there for it is not illegal. In NH if there isn't an RSA stating the People can't do something they can.

    A number of years back someone (not sure if it was an AG or a assistant to an AG) sent a letter to ALL police chiefs stating that Open Carry was a RIGHT of the people and that other people's annoyance or alarm couldn't not override that right.

    The only thing I can really come up with for this event is that he used the firearm in some type of threatening manner such as after having trouble getting what he wanted done he went back to his car to get the gun and went back and was sure to let them know he had it.


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    doobie wrote:
    A number of years back someone (not sure if it was an AG or a assistant to an AG) sent a letter to ALL police chiefs stating that Open Carry was a RIGHT of the people and that other people's annoyance or alarm couldn't not override that right.
    doobie:


    Is this fact or fiction?

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum37/44791.html

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    nhsig220 wrote:
    doobie wrote:
    A number of years back someone (not sure if it was an AG or a assistant to an AG) sent a letter to ALL police chiefs stating that Open Carry was a RIGHT of the people and that other people's annoyance or alarm couldn't not override that right.
    doobie:


    Is this fact or fiction?

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum37/44791.html
    There was a letter, no one seems to have it anymore Everyone says Penny Dean has it. I believe Dave Ridley an mvpel were integral into obtaining said letter.

    I've never seen the letter. I've seen places with snips from the letter.

    I've inquired to Penny Dean, mvpel, Dave Ridley, and a number of other people, but have been unable to find anyone with a copy.

    I've been told an old ProGunNH or GoNH newsletter included said letter, but again; have found no one with a said copy.

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    It seems very strange that not one single person, in the know, can produce a copy of this letter.

    That being the case, how do we actually know that it even existed in the first place?





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    nhsig220 wrote:
    It seems very strange that not one single person, in the know, can produce a copy of this letter.

    That being the case, how do we actually know that it even existed in the first place?



    I'll see what my digging can do...

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    doobie wrote:
    nhsig220 wrote:
    It seems very strange that not one single person, in the know, can produce a copy of this letter.

    That being the case, how do we actually know that it even existed in the first place?



    I'll see what my digging can do...
    By all means, please keep us posted on this. I'd sure as heck would like to see copy of this letter.

    Thanks doobie!



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    nhsig220 wrote:
    doobie wrote:
    nhsig220 wrote:
    It seems very strange that not one single person, in the know, can produce a copy of this letter.

    That being the case, how do we actually know that it even existed in the first place?



    I'll see what my digging can do...
    By all means, please keep us posted on this. I'd sure as heck would like to see copy of this letter.

    Thanks doobie!

    Sounds like no there wasn't really a letter...but mvpel is an accurate source here: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum37/44791.html

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    It sounds like this guy was a dick. He went into the bank "unarmed", tried to get something done didn't like what BoA did....went to his car got his starter pistol...went back with it visible in a threatening manner.

    While I'd say not in good taste if he didn't threaten to use it I don't see any crime.

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