Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Rules for an out of stater?

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Idaho Falls, Idaho, United States
    Posts
    56

    Post imported post

    Hi I am from Idaho but travel down to Utah about once a month and would like to carry my firearms (primary and backup) with me as I do everywhere else I go. But not being from UT or anything what are the rules and laws I need to follow. I have an Idaho CWP, however I do not have the Utah CWP.

    Being from out of state can I open carry?

    I am pretty sure that the ID CWP works in UT, but what other things do i need to worry about as far a CC goes?

    Someone told me that if you had a CWP you couldnt OC and that in UT you couldnt even show a buldge of a CC firearm, is this true?

    Also Is there any restriction on carrying extra loaded mags or a pair of handcuffs on you belt?


    Just need a little advice and if you had a link to the state gun law that would be appricated too.

    Thanks in Adavance
    -Gizmoe142


  2. #2
    Regular Member younggun20's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Ogden, Utah, USA
    Posts
    276

    Post imported post

    Utah accepts all permits. You can OC loaded CC loaded, loaded in your car, however you would like.

    UT is an OC state so printing is no problem

    No problem with mags or knifes.. not sure about cuffs..
    http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/76_10.htm

    Codes 76.10.501 and on

  3. #3
    Regular Member Kingfish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Atlanta, Georgia, USA
    Posts
    1,276

    Post imported post

    Gizmoe142 wrote:
    Someone told me that if you had a CWP you couldnt OC and that in UT you couldnt even show a buldge of a CC firearm, is this true?
    Besides being wrong this is just so illogical (read:Stupid). Is this true in ANY state?

    I have herd this a few times and it just does not make sense.

    (not directed at you Giz)

  4. #4
    Activist Member DoubleAgentMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    LA County, CA
    Posts
    64

    Post imported post

    I am traveling from Nevada to Utah, but don't have a CCW here. The law is that it must be two actions away from firing but I have a Glock 22. Is being in a level 2 Serpa holster considered an action under the law? And if so would it being in this holster and and not having one in the chamber but still with a loaded mag in it be considered two actions away?

    http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SER...,1145,1410.htm

  5. #5
    Regular Member Kingfish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Atlanta, Georgia, USA
    Posts
    1,276

    Post imported post

    DoubleAgentMan wrote:
    I am traveling from Nevada to Utah, but don't have a CCW here. The law is that it must be two actions away from firing but I have a Glock 22. Is being in a level 2 Serpa holster considered an action under the law? And if so would it being in this holster and and not having one in the chamber but still with a loaded mag in it be considered two actions away?

    http://www.blackhawk.com/product/SER...,1145,1410.htm
    Autoloader:
    Must be "Unloaded"--No round in chamber but can have full mag.
    Action 1: Rack Slide
    Action 2: Pull trigger
    Holster has no bearing.

  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Idaho Falls, Idaho, United States
    Posts
    56

    Post imported post

    If I read the law right, I think I understand that a loaded mag with an empty chamber is fine because you would have to

    (1.) rack the slide
    and
    (2.) Pull the trigger

    2 actions to fire the gun
    If I understand this wrong can someone please correct me

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Idaho Falls, Idaho, United States
    Posts
    56

    Post imported post

    kingfish wrote:
    Gizmoe142 wrote:
    Someone told me that if you had a CWP you couldnt OC and that in UT you couldnt even show a buldge of a CC firearm, is this true?
    Besides being wrong this is just so illogical (read:Stupid). Is this true in ANY state?

    I have herd this a few times and it just does not make sense.

    (not directed at you Giz)
    I know this made absolutely no sense to me either That is just what i have been told several times actually about Utah specifically.
    I was pretty sure that the CWP allowed me to conceal in Utah and have CC down there a few time and I know the buldge was showing but I never got asked about it. So when I heard this I was confused. Thanks for the clairification


  8. #8
    Activist Member DoubleAgentMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    LA County, CA
    Posts
    64

    Post imported post

    Thanks!

  9. #9
    Regular Member Cremator75's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Beaverton, Oregon, USA
    Posts
    393

    Post imported post

    Gizmoe142 wrote:
    kingfish wrote:
    Gizmoe142 wrote:
    Someone told me that if you had a CWP you couldnt OC and that in UT you couldnt even show a buldge of a CC firearm, is this true?
    Besides being wrong this is just so illogical (read:Stupid). Is this true in ANY state?

    I have herd this a few times and it just does not make sense.

    (not directed at you Giz)
    I know this made absolutely no sense to me either That is just what i have been told several times actually about Utah specifically.
    I was pretty sure that the CWP allowed me to conceal in Utah and have CC down there a few time and I know the buldge was showing but I never got asked about it. So when I heard this I was confused. Thanks for the clairification
    And if you have a drivers license you can not walk or ride a bike. You HAVE to drive.

  10. #10
    State Researcher Kevin Jensen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Santaquin, Utah, USA
    Posts
    2,313

    Post imported post

    DoubleAgentMan wrote:
    I am traveling from Nevada to Utah, but don't have a CCW here. The law is that it must be two actions away from firing but I have a Glock 22. Is being in a level 2 Serpa holster considered an action under the law? And if so would it being in this holster and and not having one in the chamber but still with a loaded mag in it be considered two actions away?
    If you have a permit from any State or county, you may carry however you please.
    "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Robert A. Heinlein

  11. #11
    Regular Member jpm84092's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
    Posts
    1,068

    Post imported post

    kingfish wrote:
    Gizmoe142 wrote:
    Someone told me that if you had a CWP you couldnt OC and that in UT you couldnt even show a buldge of a CC firearm, is this true?
    Besides being wrong this is just so illogical (read:Stupid). Is this true in ANY state?

    I have herd this a few times and it just does not make sense.

    (not directed at you Giz)
    Regrettably Mr. Kingfish, the People's Socialist Republic of Illinois does not allow open carry by its helpless citizens. One must obtain a permit just to own a weapon. The City of Chicago prohibits the personal ownership of handguns. (The nine wise ones in DC are about to rule on this matter.)

    Wisconsin (my former State) prohibits concealed carry, but there is a strong open carry movement. I suspect that when the current Governor leaves office, CC will again move to the legislature's agenda.
    My cats support the Second Amendment. NRA Life Member, NRA Instructor: Pistol, Rifle, & Personal Protection - NRA Certified Range Safety Officer, Utah BCI Certified Concealed Firearm Permit Instructor.
    "Permission Slips" from Utah, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, and Florida. _ Verily, thou shalt not fiddle with thine firearm whilst in the bathroom stall, lest thine spouse seek condolences from thine friends.

  12. #12
    Regular Member Kingfish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Atlanta, Georgia, USA
    Posts
    1,276

    Post imported post

    jpm84092 wrote:
    kingfish wrote:
    Gizmoe142 wrote:
    Someone told me that if you had a CWP you couldnt OC and that in UT you couldnt even show a buldge of a CC firearm, is this true?
    Besides being wrong this is just so illogical (read:Stupid). Is this true in ANY state?

    I have herd this a few times and it just does not make sense.

    (not directed at you Giz)
    Regrettably Mr. Kingfish, the People's Socialist Republic of Illinois does not allow open carry by its helpless citizens. One must obtain a permit just to own a weapon. The City of Chicago prohibits the personal ownership of handguns. (The nine wise ones in DC are about to rule on this matter.)

    Wisconsin (my former State) prohibits concealed carry, but there is a strong open carry movement. I suspect that when the current Governor leaves office, CC will again move to the legislature's agenda.
    You may have misread my post. I was asking if any state with unlicensed OC and licensed CC REQUIRED the holder of a CC permit to CC.

    Since IL does not allow carry at all and WI only allows OC then not sure how my and your comments are connected.

  13. #13
    Regular Member jpm84092's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
    Posts
    1,068

    Post imported post

    I must have miss-interpreted what you were saying. Sorry.
    My cats support the Second Amendment. NRA Life Member, NRA Instructor: Pistol, Rifle, & Personal Protection - NRA Certified Range Safety Officer, Utah BCI Certified Concealed Firearm Permit Instructor.
    "Permission Slips" from Utah, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, and Florida. _ Verily, thou shalt not fiddle with thine firearm whilst in the bathroom stall, lest thine spouse seek condolences from thine friends.

  14. #14
    Regular Member Kingfish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Atlanta, Georgia, USA
    Posts
    1,276

    Post imported post

    jpm84092 wrote:
    I must have miss-interpreted what you were saying. Sorry.
    No worries brother.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •