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Wausau Daily Herald - Wisconsin Governor candidate carries rifle in airport re support of gun rights

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Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTdK8oDfTQM

http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20100611/WDH0101/6110530/Candidate-s-weapons-stance-under-fire

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Carrying his grandfather's rifle in an Austin Straubel International Airport conference room Thursday morning, former U.S. Rep. Mark Neumann of Nashotah took a swipe at Milwaukee County Executive Scott Walker on what he characterized as flip-flopping on concealed carry rights. Neumann also held news conferences Thursday in Wausau at Wausau Downtown Airport, Eau Claire and La Crosse.

As a state representative, Walker voted no on a bill to make it legal to carry a concealed weapon in Wisconsin, but he has said he would sign such a bill into law as governor. However, Walker said he voted against the bill not on its merits but because it was voted on in the middle of the night -- at 3:51 a.m. in 2002, according to the Wisconsin State Legislature's records.

Neumann, who released a new Web ad attacking Walker on this legislative vote, reiterated what he called his firm commitment to the Second Amendment right to bear arms as it extends to carrying concealed weapons.

"A significant difference is our support of the concealed carry bill -- mine has been unwavering," Neumann said
 
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i hope it was encased, for proper transport, and ofcourse unloaded, did he check all airport reg's?- oh he had someone do that. love the support of CC........and? and? not a whisper of other concerns.
 

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Response to Mark's claim taken from Scott Walker's website:





Fact Check on Concealed Carry: More Lies from Mark Neumann




Date:Thursday, June 10, 2010
Wauwatosa – Keith Gilkes, campaign manager for Scott Walker, today issued the following statement on more lies from Mark Neumann.

“Mark Neumann’s desperate campaign has morphed into a traveling circus of lies and attacks,” said Gilkes. “Scott has time and again supported shall issue concealed carry legislation and has said explicitly he will sign it as governor. What he’s not for is jamming through legislation in the middle of the night that no one has seen and voting on it at 4:00am.”

Below is a quote from 2002 when he was running for county executive about the vote:

“On concealed carry, I supported in the past a reasonable, what I call personal protection bill and would again. My main gripe with that piece of legislation wasn’t the bill itself, but the fact that it was voted on at 4 o’clock in the morning without any drafting attorneys or other staff around without the public even knowing about it.” - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel April 21, 2002 “Making their cases for reform; As county executive Walker says, he would restore trust, restrain taxes.”

Notes: 


**In 2004, the Democrats ran an ad attacking Scott for his strong support for concealed carry.

**Scott is an avid hunter and supporter of the Second Amendment.

http://www.scottwalker.org/press-release/2010/06/fact-check-concealed-carry-more-lies-mark-neumann

SO.... he supports "shall issue" carry....... quite different than the WI Republican party platform..... I want a candidate who is willing to sign Vermont/ Alaska/ Arizona style carry!



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BJA wrote:
  
   SO.... he supports "shall issue" carry.......  quite different than the WI Republican party platform.....  I want a candidate who is willing to sign Vermont/ Alaska/ Arizona style carry!

 

         Ben

         

Agreed!
 

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Unless Neumann had permission of a sheriff or chief of police, he was in violation of state law taking his firearm inside the government-owned (Brown County) Austin-Straubel airport. Firearms are not allowed in government buildings in Wisconsin without permission from either a chief of police or county sheriff. In airports, they are allowed only as checked luggage, i.e., unloaded and ENCASED.
 

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McX wrote:
i hope it was encased, for proper transport, and ofcourse unloaded, did he check all airport reg's?- oh he had someone do that. love the support of CC........and? and? not a whisper of other concerns.
Youtube clip shows it was NOT encased, it was in his hands. So, did he have the proper permission, or did he violate the law?
 

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So is it about the 2nd Amendment or is it about hunting?

Hunting is great. I love it. But I don't wear blaze orange when I am out and about on the streets and I don't carry my hunting rifle either.

What about Constitutional Carry Mark?
What about our right to carry for personal protection?

When will one of these candidates just have the balls to step up and answer the questions?
 

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I am seeking the answer to those questions too Gleason!



True 2nd amendment support is more a state of mind, a consistent individual acknowledgment of the right not a policy regarding a specificright including creation of further government bureaucracies. Sadly it appears that these two candidates don't feel the same way about the 2nd amendment/ article 25 as we on this site and many others feel.
 

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BJA wrote:
Response to Mark's claim taken from Scott Walker's website:





Fact Check on Concealed Carry: More Lies from Mark Neumann




Date:Thursday, June 10, 2010
Wauwatosa – Keith Gilkes, campaign manager for Scott Walker, today issued the following statement on more lies from Mark Neumann.

“Mark Neumann’s desperate campaign has morphed into a traveling circus of lies and attacks,” said Gilkes. “Scott has time and again supported shall issue concealed carry legislation and has said explicitly he will sign it as governor. What he’s not for is jamming through legislation in the middle of the night that no one has seen and voting on it at 4:00am.”

Below is a quote from 2002 when he was running for county executive about the vote:

“On concealed carry, I supported in the past a reasonable, what I call personal protection bill and would again. 1. My main gripe with that piece of legislation wasn’t the bill itself, but the fact that it was voted on at 4 o’clock in the morning 2. without any drafting attorneys or other staff around without the public even knowing about it.” - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel April 21, 2002 “Making their cases for reform; As county executive Walker says, he would restore trust, restrain taxes.”

Notes: 


**In 2004, the Democrats ran an ad attacking Scott for his strong support for concealed carry.

**Scott is an avid hunter and supporter of the Second Amendment.

http://www.scottwalker.org/press-release/2010/06/fact-check-concealed-carry-more-lies-mark-neumann

SO.... he supports "shall issue" carry....... quite different than the WI Republican party platform..... I want a candidate who is willing to sign Vermont/ Alaska/ Arizona style carry!



Ben

1. Are Civil Rights dependent on time of day? Can he cite support for this assumption?

2. If Mr. Walker is not capable of reading and passing some judgement on bills without a cast of clowns, how is he possibly fit for his office?

3. If a politician is not ready to take action at any time of day (much like the military, no public service position works on a strict schedule, nor should it) he is again unfit for office.



Sorry folks, I'll head back to the Arizona forum and work on this beam in my own eye now... :lol::banghead:
 
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