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    I searched thomas.gov for H.R. 5175 and could not find it.

    It is best not to just take the word of advocacy sites, but to look up and read bills for yourself.

    Anyway, can someone find this actual bill and its status? I can't.

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    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5175


    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h5175:


    And who would have guessed; not a SINGLE Republican in the 114 co-sponsors. A clear partisan bill.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

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    wrightme,

    I apologize for not doing further homework and THANK YOU for posting the relevant links.

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    For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of our Gov. Eccept during Carter. What the hell is happening?

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    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...888&issue=

    The letter sent by the NRA.

    NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox's Letter to Members of Congress on H.R. 5175, the Disclose Act Thursday, June 10, 2010

    http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/DiscloseAct52710.pdf
    May 26, 2010

    Dear Member of Congress:

    I am writing to express the National Rifle Association's strong concerns with H.R. 5175, the DISCLOSE Act, as well as our opposition to this bill in its current form. It is our sincere hope that these concerns will be addressed as this legislation is considered by the full House.

    Earlier this year, in Citizens United v. FEC, the Supreme Court struck down the ban on certain political speech by nonprofit membership associations such as the NRA. In an attempt to characterize that ruling as something other than a vindication of the free speech and associational rights of millions of individual American citizens, H.R. 5175 attempts to reverse that decision.

    Under the First Amendment, as recognized in a long line of Supreme Court cases, citizens have the right to speak and associate privately and anonymously. H.R. 5175, however, would require the NRA to turn our membership and donor lists over to the government and to disclose top donors on political advertisements. The bill would empower the Federal Election Commission to require the NRA to reveal private, internal discussions with our four million members about political communications. This unnecessary and burdensome requirement would leave it in the hands of government officials to make a determination about the type and amount of speech that would trigger potential criminal penalties.

    H.R. 5175 creates a series of byzantine disclosure requirements that have the obvious effect of intimidating speech. The bill, for example, requires "top-five funder" disclosures on TV ads that mention candidates for federal office from 90 days prior to a primary election through the general election; "top-two funder" disclosure on similar radio ads during that period; "significant funder" and "top-five funder" disclosures on similar mass mailings during that period; and "significant funder" disclosure for similar "robocalls" during that period. Internet communications are covered if placed for a fee on another website, such as the use of banner ads that mention candidates for federal office. Even worse, no exceptions are included for organizations communicating with their members. This is far worse than current law and would severely restrict the various ways that the NRA communicates with our members and like-minded individuals.

    While there are some groups that have run ads and attempted to hide their identities, the NRA isn't one of them. The NRA has been in existence since 1871. Our four million members across the country contribute for the purpose of speaking during elections and participating in the political process. When the NRA runs ads, we clearly and proudly put our name on them. Indeed, that's what our members expect us to do. There is no reason to include the NRA in overly burdensome disclosure and reporting requirements that are supposedly aimed at so-called "shadow" groups.

    On the issue of reporting requirements, the bill mandates that the NRA electronically file all reports with the FEC within 24 hours of each expenditure. Within 24 hours of FEC posting of the reports, the NRA would be required to put a hyperlink on our website to the exact page on which the reports appear on the FEC's website - and keep that link: active for at least one year following the date of the general election. Independent Expenditure reports would have to disclose all individuals who donate $600 or more to the NRA during the reporting period and Electioneering Communication reports would have to disclose all individuals who donate $1,000 or more to the NRA during the reporting period. There are literally thousands of NRA donors who would meet those thresholds, so these requirements would create a significant and unwarranted burden.

    Some have argued that under the bill, all the NRA would have to do to avoid disclosing our $600 or $1,000 level donors is to create a "Campaign-Related Activity Account." Were we to set up such an account, however, we would be precluded from transferring more than $10,000 from our general treasury to the account; all individual donors to that account would have to specifically designate their contributions in that manner and would have to limit their contributions to $9,999; the burdensome disclosure requirements for ads, mailings and robocalls would still apply; and the NRA would be prohibited from spending money on election activity from any other source - including the NRA's Political Victory Fund (our PAC). In sum, this provision is completely unworkable.

    Unfortunately, H.R. 5175 attacks nearly all of the NRA's political speech by creating an arbitrary patchwork of unprecedented reporting and disclosure requirements. Under the bill, the NRA would have to track the political priorities of each of our individual members - all four million of them. The cost of complying with these requirements would be immense and significantly restrict our ability to speak.

    As noted above, there is no legitimate reason to include the NRA in H.R. 5175's overly burdensome disclosure and reporting requirements. Therefore, we will continue to work with members from both parties to address these issues. Should our concerns not be resolved - and to date, they have not been - the NRA will have no choice but to oppose passage of this legislation.

    Sincerely,
    Chris W. Cox
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    The following are comments on all activities of the current administration... not just one piece of legislation in particular... or just one set of government agency regulations in particular.

    The current administration has found the "Holy Grail!" of instituting total government control of the citizens. That "Holy Grail" is instituting onerous and unworkable restrictions through carefully crafted legislation or carefully thought out agency regulations that effectively, and quietly under cover of dark of night and clever bypassing of proper channels, circumvent each and every freedom guaranteed in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    The carefully crafted legislation written by far left wing organizations (think "Stimulus Bill") that seem to be something grand and glorious on the surface is merely the vehicle for the dark and sinister wording that brings about more control of the entire country.

    And the carefully thought out regulations instituted by government agencies (think EPA putting "Cap and Trade" in effect with just a few determinations and regulations) also hide the dark and sinister agenda of bringing about total government control of the entire country.

    I now look upon our government in the same manner as I would an old rogue attempting to seduce a 16 year old virgin. He will say anything, manipulate anything and everything, lie, cheat, steal, enlist the aid of other liars, cheaters, and thieves, and consider his efforts to be perfectly OK... as long as the end result is he gets to do what he wanted... to screw the object of his desire.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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