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    Here is the link to the Virginia Constitution:

    http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Article_I,_Virginia_Constitution

    Here is Section 1:

    Text of Section 1:

    Equality and Rights of Men

    That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

    Now, any of you, tell me how we are to "....pursue and obtain happiness and safety" without the means to do so?

    Read on with Section 13, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms:

    Text of Section 13:

    Militia; Standing Armies; Military Subordinate to Civil Power

    That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power

    What does our AG not under stand about "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". It says NOTHING about defending institutions rights over the rights of citizens. It says nothing about disarming law-abiding citizens and leaving them defenseless. In fact, it says just the opposite, that he WILL defend the rights of citizens in their "pursuit of happiness and safety". He has put the lives of countless Virginia citizens atjeopardy by his actions.

    When, not if, there is another incident on a Virginia campus, Ken Cuccinelli will own it.

    If there were a recall mechanism in place, he should be at the top of the list.

    Dave Vann

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    Vanns40 wrote:
    Here is the link to the Virginia Constitution:

    http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Article_I,_Virginia_Constitution

    Here is Section 1:

    Text of Section 1:

    Equality and Rights of Men

    That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

    Now, any of you, tell me how we are to "....pursue and obtain happiness and safety" without the means to do so?

    Read on with Section 13, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms:

    Text of Section 13:

    Militia; Standing Armies; Military Subordinate to Civil Power

    That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power

    What does our AG not under stand about "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". It says NOTHING about defending institutions rights over the rights of citizens. It says nothing about disarming law-abiding citizens and leaving them defenseless. In fact, it says just the opposite, that he WILL defend the rights of citizens in their "pursuit of happiness and safety". He has put the lives of countless Virginia citizens atjeopardy by his actions.

    When, not if, there is another incident on a Virginia campus, Ken Cuccinelli will own it.

    If there were a recall mechanism in place, he should be at the top of the list.

    Dave Vann
    Ken Brady is a closet gun banner. His litmus test is the law or regulationcannot be repugnant to the constitution of Virginia. I consider this rule to be quite repugnant, but it is A-OK for Ken Brady.

    Of course we must be REASONABLE in our expectations, so gun bans are not unconstitutional because the recors of GMU k now better than you or I wha theVirginia Constitution means.

    Yes we have ourselves to blame for this one. Ken Brady was a darling of most RKBA groups, and he owed his political viability as a Northern VA Republican to RKBA support. But remember he is a politician, and he doesn't think RKBA people have anywhere else to go.

    Shun him, slow clap him, protest his evil statist message. Yes he is that bad.

    Live Free or Die,

    Thundar

    PS He is the epitomy of the slain tyrant, slain by the bare breasted woman on the Seal of the Commonwealth. His failed efforts to encumber her are quite ironic.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Thundar wrote:
    Yes we have ourselves to blame for this one. Ken Brady was a darling of most RKBA groups, and he owed his political viability as a Northern VA Republican to RKBA support. But remember he is a politician, and he doesn't think RKBA people have anywhere else to go.
    Are you saying we should have voted for Steve Shannon, the man endorsed by both The Washington Post and The Virginian-Pilot?

    TFred

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    TFred wrote:
    Thundar wrote:
    Yes we have ourselves to blame for this one. Ken Brady was a darling of most RKBA groups, and he owed his political viability as a Northern VA Republican to RKBA support. But remember he is a politician, and he doesn't think RKBA people have anywhere else to go.
    Are you saying we should have voted for Steve Shannon, the man endorsed by both The Washington Post and The Virginian-Pilot?

    TFred
    We supported Ken Brady's political aspirationslong before he ran for attorney general.

    He is a politician, a lawyer and a closet gun banner. We should havefoundthe rat a long time ago.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    TFred wrote:
    Thundar wrote:
    Yes we have ourselves to blame for this one. Ken Brady was a darling of most RKBA groups, and he owed his political viability as a Northern VA Republican to RKBA support. But remember he is a politician, and he doesn't think RKBA people have anywhere else to go.
    Are you saying we should have voted for Steve Shannon, the man endorsed by both The Washington Post and The Virginian-Pilot?

    TFred
    This is one of those situations where no one could have foreseen that Cuccinelli would lie to get elected. It's not our (gun owner's) fault. That said, we have to make sure that this is the end of his political career. We don't want him going anywhere he'd do more damage to us or anyone else. He's proved he cannot be trusted.

    Dave Vann

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