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possible illegal sign?

malignity

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My wife went to the social security office today at van dyke and hall rd. to legally change her name after our marriage, and they had a no firearms sign. I stayed in the car cause I refuse to disarm unless I have to, but I got to thinking... Is this legal? I mean, if secretary of state isn't a PFZ, I'd be inclined to think the social security office would also not be allowed to have a no firearms sign.
 
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Social Security is federal. I've never even thought about it, but you probably shouldn't have even been in their parking lot with it, same as a post office.

No cites or anything, just using my own reasoning mechanisms inside my head.
 
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From what I recall its because the SSA is a federal property, and falls under the same federal laws as a Post Office or military facility, such as a recruiting station.

Sec. of State, being a state run entity, is regulated by state law.
 
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The minimum gun ban on federal property is 18 USC 930 (no guns in federal "facilities," which is defined as a "building" whre federal employees work - not parking lots, outhouses,etc.).

After that, you mainly have to chase down agency regulations published in the Code of Federal Regulations) - which are also the land of the land. Many such regs, e.g., postal service reg., bans guns even in parking lots open to the public.
 
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I understand standing on principle, but by staying in the car, you wouldn't even be able to provide hand-to-hand defense of your wife if she needed assistance. Often, simply the presence of a male escort can be enough deterrent to protect a lady.
 
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I was hoping you were right malignity.

They have a sign up as a result of a guilty conscience IMO, the way they treat people down there. Im afraid someone will eventually get fed upwith the crap they pull and actually go in and shoot up the place. It would serve them right too, not just for violating A2, but they are such a condescending burocracy. Ihave always been a little nervous when going into these places, even before I even owned a gun.
 
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I read this board daily without having ever registered. Today I registered just to say say this is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

I bet Timothy McVeigh kind of felt the same way when he killed 168 people. Maybe he was tired of their "condescending "bureaucracy."


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Im afraid someone will eventually get fed upwith the crap they pull and actually go in and shoot up the place. It would serve them right too, not just for violating A2, but they are such a condescending burocracy.
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GM wrote:
I read this board daily without having ever registered. Today I registered just to say say this is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

I bet Timothy McVeigh kind of felt the same way when he killed 168 people. Maybe he was tired of their "condescending "bureaucracy."


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Im afraid someone will eventually get fed upwith the crap they pull and actually go in and shoot up the place. It would serve them right too, not just for violating A2, but they are such a condescending burocracy.
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If you read the board daily, stupid things being said by stainless shouldn't be a surprise.

Stainless,
Would you like to know how to relieve yourself of the condescending burocracy?
 
Evil Creamsicle

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The internet is serious when anti gunners troll your boards looking for ammunition against you...

Remember, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of public opinion.

ETA: Advocating that kind of blatant terrorist idiocy is going to get you in trouble someday. It might even be a violation of your CPL. :shock:
 
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i guess people have already forgotten about the hutaree? gun owners don't need soiled by terrorist filth or comments that can be construed as such. keep it off the boards.
 
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stainless1911 wrote:
Ok, I get it, and I do think before I post, but Istill call it as I see it.

All Im trying to say, is that if you poke a stick at a dog and it bites you, then dont blame the dog.
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...though what you've said is more like 'if you poke a stick at a dog and the dog bites someone else in your stead, encourage him.'
 
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I dont encourage or condone it, but I get it, thats all.

Its hard for me to just bite my tongue just because some .gov spy or anti might be watching. They dont care about my rights, safety, or country, therefore I care little if they are offended, called out, put on the spot, reminded of truth and so on.
 
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My issue with the statement is that the "them" that you are referring to is someone's husband or wife, daughter, uncle, etc. None of the ones you refer to as "them" have one ounce of control over the system you appear to hate so much.

Basically you imply that you see nothing wrong with someone going into the Social Security office and "shooting" the place up. You might if one of your family members worked there or one of your family members was there when it happened maybe?

As far as .Gov spy or anti at this point it wont help if you were wearing the tinfoil hat under the Faraday cage. It can't be to hard to register, list your posts and see when you were talked to RE: OC vs. CC on school property, where and what court your case was assigned to, etc.

Furthermore to imply that "they" don't care about your rights, safety or country is just asinine. Who is they? How many people make up this "they" social group? Is there a median income cutoff? Seriously who is the "they" that you refer to?


stainless1911 wrote:
I dont encourage or condone it, but I get it, thats all.

Its hard for me to just bite my tongue just because some .gov spy or anti might be watching. They dont care about my rights, safety, or country, therefore I care little if they are offended, called out, put on the spot, reminded of truth and so on.
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