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    Found these on www.municode.com(thanks to venator for turning me to that website)

    These are just a few i found,for areas i personally frequent...theres way too many to list for the entire state!!

    This is for aurelius township(ingham county)

    Sec. 12-33. Conduct on park property.

    State law references:
    (e)No person shall have in their possession or control any firearm, shotgun, pistol, air rifle, bow and arrow, cross bow, sling shot or any other dangerous weapon except upon prior consent of the township board; provided, however, that this rule does not apply to any law enforcement officer.



    Jackson

    Sec. 18-185. Possession of weapons. A dangerous weapon means a weapon, other than a firearm, such as a knife, razor, taser, self-defense spray, gas-ejecting device, club, bludgeon, or other similar item. It is unlawful to transport, carry, or possess a dangerous weapon in any vehicle or public place unless it is done under any of the following conditions: (1)While transporting the encased item from the place of purchase to the home or place of business of the purchaser; (2)While transporting the encased item to and from hunting/target practice; (3)While the possessor is transporting the encased item between the possessor's home and place of business; (4)While the possessor is within or upon the possessor's home, land, or place of business; or (5)While the possessor does so under authority granted by a concealed weapons permit or other statutory exception.


    Lansing

    696.02. Carrying weapons in public places. No person shall carry any firearm, air rifle, bow and arrow, slingshot, crossbow or other dangerous weapon in any public place, subject to the following exceptions: (a)When it is in a case and is not loaded; (b)In the case of a bow or crossbow, when it is unstrung or encased, or when it is being carried under the direct supervision of authorized public recreational personnel; or (c)Where and as otherwise permitted by State law. (Ord. No. 739, 12-22-86)





    696.03. Transportation of firearms in motor vehicles. No person shall transport or possess in or upon a motor vehicle a firearm, unless the firearm is unloaded and is one or more of the following: (a)Taken down; (b)Enclosed in a case; (c)Carried in the trunk of the vehicle; and/or (d)Inaccessible from the interior of the vehicle. (Ord. No. 739, 12-22-86)

    Lansing seems to be before preemption

    Dearborn Heights



    Sec. 20-307. Same--Storage
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    (3)Smoking, matches, open flames, spark-producing devices, and firearms shall be prohibited inside of or within fifty (50) feet of a building used for the storage of fireworks. Combustible materials shall not be stored within fifty (50) feet of a building used for the storage of fireworks.


    Sec. 20-335. Transportation and possession. It shall be unlawful for any person to transport or to have in possession in or upon any vehicle a firearm unless the same be unloaded in both barrel and magazine and carried in the luggage compartment of the vehicle. It shall be unlawful to carry a firearm on any public street or in any public place unless it is unloaded and in a case. (Code 1969, § 9.213)

    East Lansing


    Sec. 26-192. Eligibility for license to purchase pistol. The chief of police or his or her designee may issue a license to purchase a pistol pursuant to MCL 28.422 if the applicant is qualified under state law. (Code 1994, ch. 106, § 9.81; Ord. No. 1020, ch. 106, § 9.81, 11-19-2002)

    it should read "shall issue a license to purchase a pistol" if the applicant is qualified under state law.

    Escanaba


    Sec. 18-229. Dangerous weapons. No person shall possess any machine gun, sawed off shot gun, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as blackjack, slung shot, sand club, sandbag, switchblade knife, or metal knuckles, or any instrument, attachment, or appliance for causing the firing of any firearm to be silent or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any firearm except as is otherwise permitted by law. (Code 1969, § 130.11(D))




    Quite honestly...about 2/3 of the towns ive looked at have some sort of firearm ordinance,not including discharge ordinances.


    There are dozens more on there....
    not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.


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    lil_freak_66 wrote:
    Found these on www.municode.com(thanks to venator for turning me to that website)

    These are just a few i found,for areas i personally frequent...theres way too many to list for the entire state!!

    This is for aurelius township(ingham county)

    Sec. 12-33.* Conduct on park property.

    State law references:
    (e)***No person shall have in their possession or control any firearm, shotgun, pistol, air rifle, bow and arrow, cross bow, sling shot or any other dangerous weapon except upon prior consent of the township board; provided, however, that this rule does not apply to any law enforcement officer.



    Jackson

    Sec. 18-185.* Possession of weapons. A dangerous weapon means a weapon, other than a firearm, such as a knife, razor, taser, self-defense spray, gas-ejecting device, club, bludgeon, or other similar item. It is unlawful to transport, carry, or possess a dangerous weapon in any vehicle or public place unless it is done under any of the following conditions: (1)***While transporting the encased item from the place of purchase to the home or place of business of the purchaser; (2)***While transporting the encased item to and from hunting/target practice; (3)***While the possessor is transporting the encased item between the possessor's home and place of business; (4)***While the possessor is within or upon the possessor's home, land, or place of business; or (5)***While the possessor does so under authority granted by a concealed weapons permit or other statutory exception.


    Lansing

    696.02.* Carrying weapons in public places. No person shall carry any firearm, air rifle, bow and arrow, slingshot, crossbow or other dangerous weapon in any public place, subject to the following exceptions: (a)***When it is in a case and is not loaded; (b)***In the case of a bow or crossbow, when it is unstrung or encased, or when it is being carried under the direct supervision of authorized public recreational personnel; or (c)***Where and as otherwise permitted by State law. (Ord. No. 739, 12-22-86)





    696.03.* Transportation of firearms in motor vehicles. No person shall transport or possess in or upon a motor vehicle a firearm, unless the firearm is unloaded and is one or more of the following: (a)***Taken down; (b)***Enclosed in a case; (c)***Carried in the trunk of the vehicle; and/or (d)***Inaccessible from the interior of the vehicle. (Ord. No. 739, 12-22-86)

    Lansing seems to be before preemption

    Dearborn Heights



    Sec. 20-307.* Same--Storage
    <snip>
    (3)***Smoking, matches, open flames, spark-producing devices, and firearms shall be prohibited inside of or within fifty (50) feet of a building used for the storage of fireworks. Combustible materials shall not be stored within fifty (50) feet of a building used for the storage of fireworks.


    Sec. 20-335.* Transportation and possession. It shall be unlawful for any person to transport or to have in possession in or upon any vehicle a firearm unless the same be unloaded in both barrel and magazine and carried in the luggage compartment of the vehicle. It shall be unlawful to carry a firearm on any public street or in any public place unless it is unloaded and in a case. (Code 1969, § 9.213)

    East Lansing


    Sec. 26-192.* Eligibility for license to purchase pistol. The chief of police or his or her designee may issue a license to purchase a pistol pursuant to MCL 28.422 if the applicant is qualified under state law. (Code 1994, ch. 106, § 9.81; Ord. No. 1020, ch. 106, § 9.81, 11-19-2002)

    it should read "shall issue a license to purchase a pistol" if the applicant is qualified under state law.

    Escanaba


    Sec. 18-229.* Dangerous weapons. No person shall possess any machine gun, sawed off shot gun, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as blackjack, slung shot, sand club, sandbag, switchblade knife, or metal knuckles, or any instrument, attachment, or appliance for causing the firing of any firearm to be silent or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any firearm except as is otherwise permitted by law. (Code 1969, § 130.11(D))




    Quite honestly...about 2/3 of the towns ive looked at have some sort of firearm ordinance,not including discharge ordinances.


    There are dozens more on there....
    Sec. 18-185. Possession of weapons. A dangerous weapon means a weapon, other than a firearm, such as a knife, razor, taser, self-defense spray, gas-ejecting device, club, bludgeon, or other similar item. It is unlawful to transport, carry, or possess a dangerous weapon in any vehicle or public place unless it is done under any of the following conditions: (1) While transporting the encased item from the place of purchase to the home or place of business of the purchaser; (2) While transporting the encased item to and from hunting/target practice; (3) While the possessor is transporting the encased item between the possessor's home and place of business; (4) While the possessor is within or upon the possessor's home, land, or place of business; or (5) While the possessor does so under authority granted by a concealed weapons permit or other statutory exception.



    It does state other then a firearm. They can have an ordinance's on any other weapons there is no preemptation on any other articles in that group

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    The majority may be misleading, or cover weapons not preempted, but most of these appear legal...

    I do like that Lansing's ordinance actually was more "liberal" than current Michigan law concerning the Transportation of Firearms. lol
    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

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    Since municipalities use different places/sites for publishing their ordinances here are some more ordinance resources:

    MSU Law Library: Michigan Ordinances & Code

    American Legal Publishing: Michigan

    SOM - Alpha Listing of City, Village & Township Web Sites
    Some websites have links to their code of ordinances.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    None of them matter..., thanks to: Sec. 2 of ACT 319 of 1990 of THE MCL.

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    aadvark wrote:
    None of them matter..., thanks to: Sec. 2 of ACT 319 of 1990 of THE MCL.
    While none of the illegal ordinances are enforceable it is still a very good idea to get involved and get them changed or stricken simply because doing so sends the message that "we the people" expect "them the government" to follow the law just like we have to.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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