Dreamer
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I know this is a CC issue and therefore a little off topic here, but I just wanted to get other people's opinions...
From what I can find looking through the NC statutes, ANY CC permit issued by a state with reciprocity with NC is good in NC, even if you are a NC resident, and don't have a NC permit (with the exception of a NH permit). I can't find ANYTHING in the NC statutes that REQUIRE that residents have a NC permit to be able to CC, nor can I find anything that states that NC residents with out-of-state non-resident permits are prohibited from lawfully CCing...
This comes up because I was in the Sheriff's office Monday to get my fingerprint card made up for my Utah CC permit application, and a deputy overheard me tell the clerk what it was for. He then told me that if I was a NC resident, that the UT permit was not recognized, and that I needed a NC permit to CC.
I didn't argue, but I told him that I already had a NC permit, and was planning to do some traveling out west this fall to attend some conferences (which is true)...
But I am about 99% sure he is wrong.
Can anyone clear this up?
Do the folks at GRNC have any opinions on this?
Or is this another situation where I'm going to have to contact the State AG's office for clarification?...
The ONLY state that we ONLY recognize RESIDENT permits for is NH, according to the NC AG's website. All other states have universal reciprocity, from what I can determine.
Here is the statute that defines who may carry concealed in NC. You will notice that NOWHERE does it say that the license has to be issued by NC:
http://ncdoj.gov/About-DOJ/Law-Enforcement-Training-and-Standards/Law-Enforcement-Liason/Concealed-Weapon-Reciprocity.aspx
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada (effective July 1, 2010)
New Hampshire (resident permits only)
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming
I know this is a CC issue and therefore a little off topic here, but I just wanted to get other people's opinions...
From what I can find looking through the NC statutes, ANY CC permit issued by a state with reciprocity with NC is good in NC, even if you are a NC resident, and don't have a NC permit (with the exception of a NH permit). I can't find ANYTHING in the NC statutes that REQUIRE that residents have a NC permit to be able to CC, nor can I find anything that states that NC residents with out-of-state non-resident permits are prohibited from lawfully CCing...
This comes up because I was in the Sheriff's office Monday to get my fingerprint card made up for my Utah CC permit application, and a deputy overheard me tell the clerk what it was for. He then told me that if I was a NC resident, that the UT permit was not recognized, and that I needed a NC permit to CC.
I didn't argue, but I told him that I already had a NC permit, and was planning to do some traveling out west this fall to attend some conferences (which is true)...
But I am about 99% sure he is wrong.
Can anyone clear this up?
Do the folks at GRNC have any opinions on this?
Or is this another situation where I'm going to have to contact the State AG's office for clarification?...
The ONLY state that we ONLY recognize RESIDENT permits for is NH, according to the NC AG's website. All other states have universal reciprocity, from what I can determine.
Here is the statute that defines who may carry concealed in NC. You will notice that NOWHERE does it say that the license has to be issued by NC:
14-415.11. Permit to carry concealed handgun; scope of permit.
And according to the AG's booklet (page 12) about NC Firearms Laws, a person with an out-of-state permit from a state with reciprocity with NC is subject to the same rights and privileges as a NC permit holder, but it says nothing about NC residents with out-of-state permits not being recognized:(a) Any person who has a concealed handgun permit may carry a concealed handgun unless otherwise specifically prohibited by law. The person shall carry the permit together with valid identification whenever the person is carrying a concealed handgun, shall disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun when approached or addressed by the officer, and shall display both the permit and the proper identification upon the request of a law enforcement
As of August 14, 2003, North Carolina also allows certain out-of-state concealed handgun permittees to carry concealed handguns, pursuant to such permits in North Carolina if the person’s respective state also grants such privilege to North Carolina concealed handgun permittees. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.24(a) The list of states granting such reciprocity, and therefore, recognized by North Carolina, is constantly changing. You should refer to the North Carolina Department of Justice’s website at http://www.ncdoj.com for a current listing of those states which are allowed to carry, pursuant to their concealed carry permits in North Carolina. While carrying a handgun pursuant to such permit, qualified out-of-state permittees are held to the same standards as North Carolina permittees.
Here is the list of states with reciprocity agreements with NC, from the NC AG's website:
http://ncdoj.gov/About-DOJ/Law-Enforcement-Training-and-Standards/Law-Enforcement-Liason/Concealed-Weapon-Reciprocity.aspx
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada (effective July 1, 2010)
New Hampshire (resident permits only)
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming