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    open carry is legal here. would this on a belt be considered open carry?
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    One could argue in court that it is OC.

    One could argue in court that it is CC.

    If either is unlawful, your life could be made miserable. It's not a good idea.

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    It depends entirely on where you live.

    Here in Utah, they would consider it concealed IIRC.

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    tomob1 wrote:
    open carry is legal here. would this on a belt be considered open carry?
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    Here where? You didn't provide your location in your profile nor in your post. As eye95 implied, the legal definition of a concealed weapon is different almost everywhere.

    For example, in Virginia, deceptive appearance is considered concealed. From Section 18.2-308:
    For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature.

    An ornate belt buckle with a working firearm in/on it would probably fool me and I'd think it was just a belt buckle unless I had the opportunity to examine it closely. But no, I'm not getting that close to your crotch.

    I've read some Mississippi law lately, and while open carry is technically legal without a license/permit, Mississippi courts have ruled that a holster conceals a firearm in part, so your belt buckle may be the only way to openly carry a firearm without a license/permit in Mississippi. However, I don't know that for sure and I'm not an attorney offering you any legal advice. This is all speculation.

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    tomob1 wrote:
    open carry is legal here. would this on a belt be considered open carry?
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    Hi 'tomob1'

    I doubt if a belt buckle or badge could be considered open carry. This is what I consider would be open carry to its full extent.


    When a criminal invades your home and has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.

    My Definition of Gun Control: The idea that dozens of people found dead in the Broadway Café, Tasmania, and many also seriously wounded, all while waiting for police, who were called to show up and protect them, is somehow morally superior to having several armed and therefore alive civilian's explaining to police how the attacker got that fatal bullet wound.

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    now THATS what i call open carry!:what:

    "Here" is kansas. legal OC. I have a CC permit, so i'm covered either way. local police know that it's a real gun (i brought it to the station and showed 'em). my question is whether it would be legal w/o my permit.
    would your state consider it OC?
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    Sorta makes you wonder where she keeps her reloads? :what:
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    NC considers belt-buckle guns to be CC.

    It is not explicitly defined in statute, but the Attorney General includes this specific scenario in the "NC Firearms Laws" booklet, which represents the AG's official stance on such "gray areas"...

    So if you have a CC permit, it would be OK.

    But if you DON'T have a permit, it's NOT considered legal for OC in NC...
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    What would be really novel is a belt buckle disguised as a gun.

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    virginiatuck wrote:
    What would be really novel is a belt buckle disguised as a gun.

    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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    It's funny how different states can twist things around to make whatever you do illegal. In seems that many OC states consider this set up to be a concealed weapon. In South Carolina, which is a CC state, you would absolutely get tagged with open carry of a concealable weapon.

    Wouldn't it be simpler if all US citizens just had torespect the Second Amendment?
    "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun."

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    tomob1 wrote:
    open carry is legal here. would this on a belt be considered open carry?
    thanks!

    the belt buckle gun holder hides the guns true identity,, making it a concealed gun,
    even though it is in open view.

    this gun holder doesnt look like a belt buckle,, it is open carry!

    EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

    All power is inherent in the people,
    it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!

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