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Carnivore wrote:
LMTD wrote:
I think Marc's point is that it would be better for the schools to teach gun safety than to participate in gun panic like kicking kids out of school for coloring a picture of a firearm or wearing a glock polo shirt.
If one truly understands the issues of gun safety and the simple fact that some folks are idiots, there is nothing wrong with the schools teaching gun safety courses, beats the crap out of the government trying to eliminate guns over such issues.
As it sits right now, schools do in fact teach gun safety, unfortunately the message they teach is one of fear and panic instead of responsible training.
Well I guess the little fella just didn't live long enough to make it to his first day of school now did he ! You damn well better bet a kid of mine better fear a gun until I have the time and schedule to have parental oversight
LOL, I never had a fear of my fathers guns, I had a significant fear of what my butt would feel like if I touched one of them without him present.
No, the three year old had no real viable chance to learn gun safety, it was likely beyond his capacity.
That does not make it something we should not support. It also does not make it something we should condemn. Theories abound but even highly qualified firearms instructors usually recommend a safety course be taught by someone unknown vs a family member. The only reason is because when instructing a family member is you have your own idea of what they already know but when it is a stranger you assume they know nothing so you do not leave anything out.
The key point I am trying to stress is that is in fact your choice. I would like to see it be a positive choice in school.
Let me offer another perspective here. I was sitting having supper and a lady at the next table caught our eye and she was talking to her hubby and suddenly engaged us. She asked "have you ever seen that fifth grader show?" and I said "yes, two or three times" her; "oh good, now let me ask you, could you ever have imagined how advanced school has gotten and how smart the kids are getting" she had a big smile, I am going to assume that meant I would be taking her side and canceling her hubby's vote, no surprise i did not take that position. "Well, yes and no ma'am, it is amazing but not because the kids are so smart but because of the massive quantity of worthless information they will never use in life that we are trying to stuff into them"
I thought she was gonna faint. How many geographers do we need? Who cares where the capitol of Chilie is located unless you live there? How about we teach some practical stuff like how to actually COUNT CHANGE when shuckin burgers instead of having to look at the register TWICE now, once for the bills and again for the coins!
Good things at school when I was a kid, swimming lesson, driving lessons, practical math, a class called Liberty & Law, health and wellness, bicycle safety ( OMG I am alive and never owned a helmet) electrical safety, Speech & Debate (lol, like I would not like that class)
All I am saying is I do not want things mandated to folks via the government, I am no fan of that, but having practical gun safety taught in schools in contrast to the gun fear that is now taught has merit and it beats the Brady's holding this up and pushing again to require you by law to have a safe. Perhaps if the idiot boyfriend had gone through such a class, the gun would not have been accessible instead of implying that it was said that the child should have been taught as much.
FYI on your other question, one report stated the boyfriend was "in the process of moving out" for whatever that means.
Parents too dumb or lazy to train their kids should have their gene pool reduced? I know that sounds harsh but look what modern healthcare has given us: the ability to survive childhood diseases so we can procreate and pass on those weak genes. Hey I have kids and I would do anything to keep them alive. But the loss of the physically or mentally weak DOES benefit the species as a whole... if you hold to certain types of philosophies about mankind. I am NOT expressing opinion or desire, just commenting...