Tuscaloosa County Sheriff's FAQ Page Is Misleading

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kingfish wrote:

But the Sheriff is the boot that will be on your neck. The conversation with the DA would come after the conversation with the Sheriff.

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Well, the DA is responsible for prosecuting the cases generated by the Sheriff. If the sheriff creates a case that the DA won't prosecute because the sheriff didn't understand the law, then you have a case for wrongful arrest and can attempt to bankrupt the Sheriff's department of that county. You can talk to the DA today and find out HIS stance, and he WILL talk to you, whereas the State AG can only get involved if someone holding office writes him a letter (like say, a County Commissioner not up for re-election, a member of the local school board, etc. -- someone who won't be "hurt" by asking questions).

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Kirbinator wrote:

kingfish wrote:

But the Sheriff is the boot that will be on your neck. The conversation with the DA would come after the conversation with the Sheriff.

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Well, the DA is responsible for prosecuting the cases generated by the Sheriff. If the sheriff creates a case that the DA won't prosecute because the sheriff didn't understand the law, then you have a case for wrongful arrest and can attempt to bankrupt the Sheriff's department of that county. You can talk to the DA today and find out HIS stance, and he WILL talk to you, whereas the State AG can only get involved if someone holding office writes him a letter (like say, a County Commissioner not up for re-election, a member of the local school board, etc. -- someone who won't be "hurt" by asking questions).

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And if the Sheriff never makes the arrest there is nothing to prosecute.

I would rather avoid the ride and stay broke than take the ride (or worse) and cash in on a suit.

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Another & last response from the Tuscaloosa County Sheriff...

Oh, and he removed the question and answer...

Sorry but I have matters in Tuscaloosa to attend to. I will watch for
case law. Thx

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Edmund M. "Ted" Sexton, Sr
Sheriff Tuscaloosa County Al
205 752 0616

On Jun 23, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Jameswrote:

> Roll tide to you also! I do respect all LEO as long as there is a
> mutualrespect. I see you must have done a background check on me. Find
> anythinggood? That is nice to know that our resources are being used for their
> purposes.
>
> I still have issues with how you are teaching your deputies. There
> is thewhole 4th amendment rights to illegal search and seizure. How can a
> deputytake someone's weapon and do warrant searches etc without reasonable
> suspicion?
>
> Not sure if you were aware of the recent issue down in Dothan at the
> GoldenCorral. That was a huge mess that could cause a whole lot of
> taxpayers moneyto go to waste due to deputies not properly trained.
>
> http://www.rickeystokesnews.com/article.php/concealed-and-open-carry-of-handguns-in-alabama--sheriff-hughes-addresses-the-issues-10606]http://www.rickeystokesnews.com/article.php/concealed-and-open-carry-of-handguns-in-alabama--sheriff-hughes-addresses-the-issues-10606[/url]
>
> Any ways, nice chatting with you. I appreciate your time and your
> lookinginto the question and answer issue. If I offended/aggravated you in
> any way,I sincerely apologize. I have served our country for over 20 years
> now andjust hate to see a right not being used and not taught to our younger
> generations. The people in our country have taken our rights too
> lightly andare on the verge of losing most if not all of them.
>
> Next time I see Sherriff Jones, I will be sure to pass on your
> hello!

> Good luck, be careful out there and...
>
> Roll Tide & war chicken!
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ted Sexton" <
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:25 PM
> To: "'James
> Subject: RE:
>
>> I hope all is well in Lee County. I appreciate the information
>> forwarded
>> but would suggest you consider in the future allowing for the
>> appropriate
>> research to be done to confirm your request. Most Sheriff's I know
>> are
>> responsible for more than issuing concealed carry permits. In
>> response to
>> your inquiry we have removed the question from our website.
>>
>> My Deputies are now aware of OC. I stated in my previous email each
>> situation with an armed individual is handled on a case by case
>> basis. I
>> would expect any deputy or officer to be cautious on approaching
>> any armed
>> individual. More than likely the deputy or officer will take
>> custody of
>> the gun for their own safety and return the gun after the interview
>> and
>> wants/ warrant check. I hope as ya'll move forward in your endeavor
>> that
>> you respect the officers out performing their duties who will more
>> than
>> likely encounter an individual involved with OC due to a call from a
>> complainant through a dispatch center. " Person with a gun".
>>
>> Say hello to your Sheriff Jay Jones when you see him and I can't
>> let a
>> resident of Lee County go without a ROLL Tide!!

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The officer can only take the handgun "for officer safety" if the stop was lawful. Or does the sheriff think that every time one of his deputies says, "Good morning," to an armed citizen, he can take the handgun "for officer safety"?

If the deputy does not have RAS to make a lawful stop, he needs to keep his paws off the gun! Period!

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Yep, but the sheriff wouldn't comment any more. Sooooo... I guess someone may find out one day how it goes up that way.

This is pretty aggravating. I guess I was just one of the sleeping sheeple all these years. I put way too much faith in our elected officials and now we have these guys in power who will do pretty much what they please. I am glad I woke up!

One thing obama was right about...CHANGE! Not his version of course!

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I know there is alot of negative we can still focus on here but hey theres a couple bright spots. They removed the misleading info from the page and at least he is aware now we are here and has informed his crew that we are here. Maybe it'll make for a better encounter when it happens. As for how they handle approaching an OC'er, thats a new battle

Thanks for keeping at him cowboy!