Doug Huffman
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If you can't stand the heat ("STFU") then get out of the kitchen.
If you can't stand the heat ("STFU") then get out of the kitchen.
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proper car removal of firearm
- Thread starter southside
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Munir, We Hardly Know Ye
1. Since this is a question of state law, I am not sure that the FRCP pertain.
2. Since this is a question of criminal law, I am not sure that any rules of civil procedure pertain.
3. The Wisconsin Supreme Court in Hamdan, presumably having read the Wisconsin Constitution, established a multi-pronged test to determine if the behavior in question could be defended by constitutional challenge. The questions required affirmative (yes) answers to the questions.
4. It is an affirmative defense in that it must be raised by the defendant.
1. Since this is a question of state law, I am not sure that the FRCP pertain.
2. Since this is a question of criminal law, I am not sure that any rules of civil procedure pertain.
3. The Wisconsin Supreme Court in Hamdan, presumably having read the Wisconsin Constitution, established a multi-pronged test to determine if the behavior in question could be defended by constitutional challenge. The questions required affirmative (yes) answers to the questions.
4. It is an affirmative defense in that it must be raised by the defendant.
Doug Huffman
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davegran
Regular Member
As to the original subject of the post, I find it much easier to load up and holster up when exiting my car by using a $5 soft-sided zipper case instead of the hard case that my weapons came in originally. It's very easy to hold in one hand while I unzip it and retrieve my firearm with the other hand.
Dave
Dave
BROKENSPROKET
Regular Member
I had to upgrade from a $5 that I got at a gun show to a $20. The first one did not have a hook to grab onto with my left as I unzipped with my right, so I was pinching the case. I dirlled with it add decided I needed something better to grab onto gross muscle memory function in under fire conditions, if that is what it's called. I know I am close. I also needed a fabric that was a little more tacky, cuz I DASH CARRY.
davegran
Regular Member
The ones I use are made by the Allen Co. and I get 'em at Gander. The padded lining and the fairly heavy outer fabric makes them very easy to grasp with one hand. They come in a variety of sizes and colors. I don't know if they'd stick to your dash. I suppose a piece of that rubber RV shelf liner that is mostly open space would give some traction....
Dave
Dave
Terkeytoes
Regular Member
lockman
State Researcher
Terkeytoes
Regular Member
I ask cause the way I read the laws regarding vehicles and firearms is that they do not apply as long as you are on private property and not in the right of way of a roadway or highway.
Anyone who is familiar with this, is this correct? If you are private property and not in the right of way can you transfer a handgun from a case to holster and vice versa?
Seems to me like you are making less of a disturbance doing it that way than putting it on the ground and what not, but what do I know I only think with common sense.
Anyone who is familiar with this, is this correct? If you are private property and not in the right of way can you transfer a handgun from a case to holster and vice versa?
Seems to me like you are making less of a disturbance doing it that way than putting it on the ground and what not, but what do I know I only think with common sense.
bnhcomputing
Founder's Club Member
Two things:
1. I do not recall an exception for private property at all.
2. Uncasing, loading, unloading, casing a firearm should NEVER require needing to place the case on the ground.
1. I do not recall an exception for private property at all.
2. Uncasing, loading, unloading, casing a firearm should NEVER require needing to place the case on the ground.
Terkeytoes
Regular Member
I just re-read the law and found where I was mistaken, it was part of a string of exceptions in which all exceptions/criteria needed to be met before the exception was granted.
Flipper
Campaign Veteran
One of a continuing series of reasons why the DNR should have no enforcement authority over firearms unless an individual is actually in the act of hunting.
bnhcomputing
Founder's Club Member
I believe is would be "improperly cased" which is NOT an arrestable offense, just a citation. Concealed is an arrestable offense.
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littlewolf
Regular Member
It has become so natural to me to load and unload I don't give it a second thought!
1.check surroundings befor exiting truck.(check for BG or PD) could be same ?
2.slide gun case from top of arm rest to seat.
3.exit truck,pickup gun case and unzip, remove weapon,insert mag,let slide go foreword and holster in one motion.
as for reentering truck
1. same as 1. above.
2. open truck door,draw weapon drop mag in hand and toss on seat.eject 180gr hp into truck on seat,lock slide back.
3.pick up case,insert weapon and zip. toss on armrest ,put 180gr hp back in mag.
never timed it but probly less than 15 sec. I do this with the weapon between me and the truck as not to draw attention.
1.check surroundings befor exiting truck.(check for BG or PD) could be same ?
2.slide gun case from top of arm rest to seat.
3.exit truck,pickup gun case and unzip, remove weapon,insert mag,let slide go foreword and holster in one motion.
as for reentering truck
1. same as 1. above.
2. open truck door,draw weapon drop mag in hand and toss on seat.eject 180gr hp into truck on seat,lock slide back.
3.pick up case,insert weapon and zip. toss on armrest ,put 180gr hp back in mag.
never timed it but probly less than 15 sec. I do this with the weapon between me and the truck as not to draw attention.
davegran
Regular Member
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I don't see any mention of engaging the safety or operating the decocker, whichever your firearm has.... :uhoh:
I don't see any mention of engaging the safety or operating the decocker, whichever your firearm has.... :uhoh:
Some firearms don't have a thumb safety or decocker, like my XD.
davegran
Regular Member
Some firearms don't have a thumb safety or decocker, like my XD.
Granted; I don't believe the Glock has them either; but I was thinking of the new, inexperienced carrier who needs to hear a safe manual of arms if their pistol requires it.
I don't like thumb safeties. Why? Because I like to be able to hit the slide release with my thumb.
littlewolf
Regular Member
The Springfeild XD has a Grip Safety and USA (ultra Safety assurance) trigger system. Sorry for any confusion.
BRAND0N
Regular Member
X2 except I have to use my trigger finger :-/ (dang leftys)