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    A job well done to Adnan Shahab and Chau Chang on their debate with Saldana at the CommonWealth Club tonight in Lafayette.

    Look on the CommonWealth Club website in the near future for the video.....

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    KTVU Channel 2 news clip link

    http://www.ktvu.com/video/23942977/

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    So basically, Saldanaleaves an open carry debate with an armed security detail in order toprove what point???It was a gun-free zone. Why didn't she feel safe???? I think that she just made thewinning argument for"shooting" down her own bill!!!!!What a tyrant!
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    Sons of Liberty wrote:
    So basically, Saldanaleaves an open carry debate with an armed security detail in order toprove what point???It was a gun-free zone. Why didn't she feel safe???? I think that she just made thewinning argument for"shooting" down her own bill!!!!!What a tyrant!
    Complete Hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do!

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    JJ wrote:
    Sons of Liberty wrote:
    So basically, Saldanaleaves an open carry debate with an armed security detail in order toprove what point???It was a gun-free zone. Why didn't she feel safe???? I think that she just made thewinning argument for"shooting" down her own bill!!!!!What a tyrant!
    Complete Hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do!
    Well...technically "do as I say, not as I do" doesn't qualify because she's not carrying a gun and she doesn't support that right. Instead she has an armed security detail around her which the rest of us couldn't realistically have or afford. Which actually makes the point of OC even more clear. OC is for those who aren't priviledged to have their own personal security detail following them around everywhere.

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    The hypocrisy of arriving at a debate with bodyguards armed with handguns, wherein youargue that people should not be armed with a common emplement of self defense is worthy of mockery and scorn. This along with her presentation while wearing a bullet proof vestin the assembly, proves that Saldana is a political thespian and a fakir or charletonattempting to charm away our right to self defense while preserving her own.

    While she may believe she is in danger from the pro-rights crowd, that she is the lightning rod of physical threats or harm- the reality is quite the opposite. The only thing she has to fear, is the absenceof one ofour communitywilling to defend her against a real criminal.
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    Just FYI, not everyone left their guns outside

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    Well...technically "do as I say, not as I do" doesn't qualify because she's not carrying a gun and she doesn't support that right.Â* Instead she has an armed security detail around her which the rest of us couldn't realistically have or afford.Â*

    This fact was in fact brought to light by Adnan during his closing statement. During his closing he also referred to her highness as Ms. saldana after she had corrected Chau earlier in the debate that her title is Assemblwoman......

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    "Sic Semper Tyranus"

    We should pray that she is voted out to never hold public office again.

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    Term limits is giving her the boot. This is here going away present.

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    I'll be putting together a request to determine how much an after hours (over time?), armed security detail costs the tax payers.

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    In addition to the security detail that accompanied her to the debate, there were already two uniformed Lafayette Police officers and one plainclothes female officer on site before her arrival that I saw, and that stayed for the duration of the event.......

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    pullnshoot25 wrote:
    Just FYI, not everyone left their guns outside
    Yup, only the tyrants and agents of the State had the means of self defense, or was it a means of oppression?!


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    She obviously believes that guns are not for protecting US, but onlyHER worthless ass. :X

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    Mike Hunt wrote:
    She obviously believes that guns are not for protecting US, but onlyHER worthless ass. :X
    Party foul. Wewere all created equal.

    Lori Saldana is as worthy as any of us to excersize self-defense in any way she likes. Her problem however, lay with thinking that she is the best person to determine how others provide for their own defense.

    I for one, do not feel comfortable putting my faith in someone on the telephone who may or may not send men with guns who are limited by capacity, space, and time to come to my rescue. Whilecalling 911may work for some under ideal circumstances, it is not the best means to ensure your security and safety. It is not her place to tell me or anyone how we should provide for our well being.
    New to OPEN CARRY in California? Click and read this first...

    NA MALE SUBJ ON FOOT, LS NB 3 AGO HAD A HOLSTERED HANDGUN ON HIS RIGHT HIP. WAS NOT BRANDISHING THE WEAPON, BUT RP FOUND SUSPICIOUS.
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    ConditionThree wrote:
    Mike Hunt wrote:
    She obviously believes that guns are not for protecting US, but onlyHER worthless ass. :X
    Party foul. Wewere all created equal.

    Lori Saldana is as worthy as any of us to excersize self-defense in any way she likes. Her problem however, lay with thinking that she is the best person to determine how others provide for their own defense.

    I for one, do not feel comfortable putting my faith in someone on the telephone who may or may not send men with guns who are limited by capacity, space, and time to come to my rescue. Whilecalling 911may work for some under ideal circumstances, it is not the best means to ensure your security and safety. It is not her place to tell me or anyone how we should provide for our well being.
    Lori Saldana is attempting tolegislate away our God-given rights, all the while suckling away at the teat of our own tax $$ to pay for her armed security detail. I stand by my statement. She is a worthless ass.

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    ConditionThree wrote:
    Mike Hunt wrote:
    She obviously believes that guns are not for protecting US, but onlyHER worthless ass. :X
    Party foul. Wewere all created equal.

    Lori Saldana is as worthy as any of us to excersize self-defense in any way she likes. Her problem however, lay with thinking that she is the best person to determine how others provide for their own defense.

    I for one, do not feel comfortable putting my faith in someone on the telephone who may or may not send men with guns who are limited by capacity, space, and time to come to my rescue. Whilecalling 911may work for some under ideal circumstances, it is not the best means to ensure your security and safety. It is not her place to tell me or anyone how we should provide for our well being.
    Yes, we are all created equal, but some commit crimes against humanity and fall from grace in both the eyes of our Creator and man. They are the ones whodeserve to be run out of town by vigilantes, locked up in prison, or even suffer the ultimate with capital punishment.

    What is the punishment for a tyrant who would release 10's of thousands of violent state inmates while denying the people their natural law rightof self defense by passing ill conceived legislationthereby disarming the people so they cannot protect themselves? All the while of course conveniently excluding herself from the same restrictions.

    At what point whenhas one broken the trust of the people,broken their oath of office, and not only fail to uphold and defend the Constitution but actively work to shred it to pieces do we as a society determine them to be a domestic enemy and deny them the right to arm themselves as they choose? Is she still worthy of self defense in any manner she likes? I think not.

    To allow someone like Saldana to continue to arm themselves in the manner they choose while putting innocent lives at risk is foolish political correctness at best and insanity at worst.
    "Why should judicial precedent bind the nation if the Constitution itself does not?" -- Mark Levin

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    coolusername2007 wrote:

    Yes, we are all created equal, but some commit crimes against humanity and fall from grace in both the eyes of our Creator and man. They are the ones whodeserve to be run out of town by vigilantes, locked up in prison, or even suffer the ultimate with capital punishment.

    What is the punishment for a tyrant who would release 10's of thousands of violent state inmates while denying the people their natural law rightof self defense by passing ill conceived legislationthereby disarming the people so they cannot protect themselves? All the while of course conveniently excluding herself from the same restrictions.

    At what point whenhas one broken the trust of the people,broken their oath of office, and not only fail to uphold and defend the Constitution but actively work to shred it to pieces do we as a society determine them to be a domestic enemy and deny them the right to arm themselves as they choose? Is she still worthy of self defense in any manner she likes? I think not.

    To allow someone like Saldana to continue to arm themselves in the manner they choose while putting innocent lives at risk is foolish political correctness at best and insanity at worst.
    Thanks, Cool. That's what I meant to say. .....That, and also that she's a worthless ass.

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    It would seem you are right.


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    The picture says it all!

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    JJ wrote:
    KTVU Channel 2 news clip link

    http://www.ktvu.com/video/23942977/
    Saldana essentially accused the Open Carry supporters of planning to shoot her.

    Someone in Cali needs to call her out on that one...

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    Was video of this event ever posted to the web? I did a quick search but didn't see it anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolusername2007 View Post
    Was video of this event ever posted to the web? I did a quick search but didn't see it anywhere.
    You might find it here.

    https://www.calchannel.com/channel/live/3

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    Thanks, but I thought calchannel was for state government proceedings. Wasn't the open carry debate setup by the Commonwealth Club? I checked their site but they only have the previous open carry debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolusername2007 View Post
    Thanks, but I thought calchannel was for state government proceedings. Wasn't the open carry debate setup by the Commonwealth Club? I checked their site but they only have the previous open carry debate.
    I checked the CClub and found everything but her. Their seach feature drew a blank.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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