Government taking our guns??

ericfrompahrump wrote:

the only thing that ever came out of texas is queers and steers

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And you don't look much like a steer to me, so I guess that kind of narrows it down, doesn't it?

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the only thing that ever came out of texas is queers and steers

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crisisweasel wrote:

ericfrompahrump wrote:

i wasnt watching the news at that time

why were they taking guns?

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Because they thought civilians with firearms would cause mayhem because of course civilians can't be trusted with firearms. The reasons you'd expect - the same tired contempt the government has for independent citizens. However, there was also potentially a racist element carrying them around. Here's the story of that:

http://www.thenation.com/article/katrinas-hidden-race-war

For all these reasons, Nagin and the New Orleans PD borrowed a page right out of the supposedly "paranoid fantasies" of the gun community and confiscated firearms from citizens.

I am not a fan of vigilantism and am really opposed to racism and racial intimidation, but that is no reason to leave people completely defenseless in a natural disaster situation (this would include blacks, obviously.) Of course some private citizens will be irresponsible with their weapons. One of the many reason to leave civilians with guns alone is to protect themselves from these idiots as well.

You can imagine the potential in a natural disaster scenario for:

(a) Looting, crime, and armed robbery.

(b) Gang violence

(c) Certain far right-wing types taking advantage of the lawlessness to form their own paragovernment (for lack of a better term) which may or may not have legitimacy and may or may not behave in a just manner. I am on several survival boards and some of those people - not all of them or even most of them - but a minority of them - really creep me out.

To be honest, I am armed for possible resistance to all three of these about equally, should such an event occur. Don't want an opportunistic, paranoid militia (I do not oppose all militias - just the loony ones), gang member, or looter in my home or anywhere near my family.

how did they get away with it?

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I guess people didn't want to shoot at police who were doing the confiscations. Normally civilized people try to avoid this kind of thing. Not saying what anyone should do, but I think it makes sense to cache weapons for this circumstance.

have they since been given back

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The NRA sued (and won) to force the issue. Many of the weapons went unclaimed, and some were rusted and corroded beyond recognition.

The NRA made a pretty big deal about it, as they should.

This was terrible for the city of New Orleans, but it provided lots of ammunition (in a manner of speaking) to those who have maintained for a long time that the government (in this case local government) would do this in a crisis.

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I think you mean far radical left-wing types. They are the ones you really need to worry about. History bears this out.

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the only thing that ever came out of texas is queers and steers

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Down under when I was a teenagernearly everyone owned a firearm. We would go on hunting trips with our guns and hunting kniveson the back seat of the car and even if stopped by police, usually for speeding, the last thing they would even mention is, "You have guns and knives in your posession?" When as a member of Cadets, in High School, I would take my Lee Enfield 303 to school openly on the train. Not one person even looked at me. Later, I would cary my rifle to work anticipating a rabbit hunt on the way home or an hour or two at the range with friends. No one even cared?

Many years later the governmentintroduced licencing, saying if youare stopped by policeand are carryinga firearm and have no firearms licence you will be arrested and charged fined and possibly jailed. We all applied for a firearms licence. Then it got worse. Firearms ban by stealth.

The governmentthen intorduced firearmsregistration. Stating if you are caught with a firearm and it is not a registered firearmyou will be arrested, fined and possibly jailed.

The Howard governmentlaterbanned firearms and stated; We know who is licenced and we know where the registered firearms are held and by whom, and wewill come and get your licenced and registered firearms if you dont hand them in. You will be charged, fined and jailed for 10 years or more. Ten years is more than one gets for murder in Aus.

Most people who fessed up and applied for a firearms licence, then registered their firearms, @#$% themselves and rushed off and handed in their firearms. Had they not applied for a firearm's licence or registered their firearms thy would still have them and the whole $500,000,000 gun buy backwaste of money could have been avioded. Haz.

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Here's the deal, I'm 17 and live with my parents. I turn 18 in a few days....(SNIP) I don't see the point because I plan on OC/CC when I'm of age. And in Georgia, to carry a handgun you have to have a GFL. What are some arguments I can use to persuade my dad to let me buy from dealers? It would be a lot easier and I just want to buy my guns brand spankin new.

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I think your dad has a good idea with staying off the grid, but when the gov't decides to outlaw guns it will probably be through legislation (like England and Australia), so whether his guns are off the grid or on them, the penalty for having them will be the same.

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I don't fear the Fed taking away my firearms. I do fear the local HOAs attempting to do so. As I posted elsewhere, I lived in a community in VA where you could not have a vehile with visible damage parked on the street on in a drive way. It had to be out of sight as did your motorcycle.

It is not beyond the realm of possiblity for one of these HOAs to ban the storage of ammunition and/or firearms within the corporate boundries of the HOA - and they'd be within their rights.

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correct me if i am wrong but didnt Bush sign an act forbidding this from happening again?

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