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    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    That is AWESOME.

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    Some of those dispatchers sound like freaking idiots.

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    i couldnt help but laugh...
    not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.


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    The dispatcher was a moron.
    "What did he shoot at?"

    "The man outside."

    "Did he HIT him?"

    "Yes."

    (PAUSE) "Ah, well should I send an ambulance then?"

    God is the one driving this stagecoach, I'm just riding shotgun.

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    pyite wrote:
    Some of those dispatchers sound like freaking idiots.
    More like the lone citizen has no business defending themselves. They sound angry at the caller for defending themselves and I have heard way to many where the dispatcher belittles the caller when they find out they are armed. That they need to put the gun down before they hurt someone.
    -I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you screw with me, I'll kill you all.
    -Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
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    zack991 wrote:
    pyite wrote:
    Some of those dispatchers sound like freaking idiots.
    More like the lone citizen has no business defending themselves. They sound angry at the caller for defending themselves and I have heard way to many where the dispatcher belittle the caller when they find out they are armed. That they need to put the gun down before they hurt someone.
    Yeah I get that tone in many of these 911 recordings too. I would have to tell them to kiss my arse. I will put it down when the cops show up.

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    LOL Good one.

    No way I'd stay on the line if someone were breaking in my house. I'd call in, give the report, give me address, and then hang up. My full attention needs to be on the immediate threat. I'm not going to be standing there describing the play by play to the dispatcher while also trying to protect myself.

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    If someone is breaking into my house, I won't be needing 911. But since I'm a good citizen and would call them to report the burglar, it would go more likely as follows:

    Homeowner: Someone just broke into my house.

    911: Where is he now?

    HO: Upstairs, I guess. Well, more likely downstairs.

    911: What do you mean?

    HO: Well, I tried to speak to him in English and he didn't understand that so I spoke to him in 12 gauge.

    911: Does he need an ambulance?

    HO: Let me go check.

    BANG!

    HO: Not anymore.



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    This 911 caller did not do as you said:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Mvf...eature=related There is a video of the whole or most of the 911 call but I couldn't find it. She was pleading and I am flat out begging for them to get the police there so she didn't have to shoot him.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    That dispatcher was fantastic. She knew the law or at least had access to someone that knew the law. She also did not attempt to coerce the lady into doing something stupid like putting the gun down, hiding and waiting for police.

    That call breaks me up something fierce though. Not for the criminal but for that lady.

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    Good job all around. But when she pulled the trigger, she had a right to remain silent and should have exercised it.
    It takes a village to raise an idiot.

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    That's how you do it.

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    LOL Good one.

    No way I'd stay on the line if someone were breaking in my house. I'd call in, give the report, give me address, and then hang up. My full attention needs to be on the immediate threat. I'm not going to be standing there describing the play by play to the dispatcher while also trying to protect myself.
    me personally i would NOT hang up with 911

    i would tell them that i need to put my full attention on the threat,and that i am setting the phone down,i would put it on speaker if i could so that way the 911 operator can hear what is going on,and update the responding emergency units accordingly.,as well as making an audio record of the situation.

    just a c.y.a. thing,it helps get an audio of the situation,which could possibly keep you out of jail.
    not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.


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