army74
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Pontiac lost it
Pontiac lost it
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Arts Beats and Eats
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DrTodd
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PDinDetroit wrote:
It appears that the city is making the "no firearms" section part of the contract... not the other way around so, IANAL, but this seems to violate MCL 123.1101 et seq.
"A local unit of government shall not impose special taxation on, enact or enforce any ordinance or regulation pertaining to, or regulate in any other manner the ownership, registration, purchase, sale, transfer, transportation, or possession of pistols or other firearms, ammunition for pistols or other firearms, or components of pistols or other firearms, except as otherwise provided by federal law or a law of this state.]
PDinDetroit wrote:
It appears that the city is making the "no firearms" section part of the contract... not the other way around so, IANAL, but this seems to violate MCL 123.1101 et seq.
"A local unit of government shall not impose special taxation on, enact or enforce any ordinance or regulation pertaining to, or regulate in any other manner the ownership, registration, purchase, sale, transfer, transportation, or possession of pistols or other firearms, ammunition for pistols or other firearms, or components of pistols or other firearms, except as otherwise provided by federal law or a law of this state.]
DrTodd
Michigan Moderator
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PDinDetroit wrote:
It appears that the city is making the "no firearms" section part of the contract... not the other way around so, IANAL, but this seems to violate MCL 123.1101 et seq.
"A local unit of government shall not impose special taxation on, enact or enforce any ordinance or regulation pertaining to, or regulate in any other manner the ownership, registration, purchase, sale, transfer, transportation, or possession of pistols or other firearms, ammunition for pistols or other firearms, or components of pistols or other firearms, except as otherwise provided by federal law or a law of this state.]
PDinDetroit wrote:
It appears that the city is making the "no firearms" section part of the contract... not the other way around so, IANAL, but this seems to violate MCL 123.1101 et seq.
"A local unit of government shall not impose special taxation on, enact or enforce any ordinance or regulation pertaining to, or regulate in any other manner the ownership, registration, purchase, sale, transfer, transportation, or possession of pistols or other firearms, ammunition for pistols or other firearms, or components of pistols or other firearms, except as otherwise provided by federal law or a law of this state.]
scot623
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http://fozzypokermods.com/OC/Royal Oak Festival Agreement.pdf
Here is the agreement. Thanks for the server, fozzy
http://fozzypokermods.com/OC/Royal Oak Festival Agreement.pdf
Here is the agreement. Thanks for the server, fozzy
lapeer20m
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So the city wants to have a festival, and they are contracting with Arts Beats and Eats to provide said festival for the city.
Seems to me that preemption would certainly apply.
So the city wants to have a festival, and they are contracting with Arts Beats and Eats to provide said festival for the city.
Seems to me that preemption would certainly apply.
fozzy71
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scot623 wrote:
Here it is with a direct link on my server.
Royal%20Oak%20Festival%20Agreement.pdf
scot623 wrote:
Here it is with a direct link on my server.
Royal%20Oak%20Festival%20Agreement.pdf
LaVere
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Does this cover your questions?
Does this cover your questions?
PDinDetroit
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LaVere wrote:
7. Representations and Warranties
The parties under this agreement hereby warrant and represent that:
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b. In the making or performance of this agreement, each party has not and will not knowingly violate any laws, orders or regulations or the rights, legal and equitable, of anyone.
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LaVere wrote:
Yes, that helps along with the following:Does this cover your questions?
7. Representations and Warranties
The parties under this agreement hereby warrant and represent that:
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b. In the making or performance of this agreement, each party has not and will not knowingly violate any laws, orders or regulations or the rights, legal and equitable, of anyone.
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eastmeyers
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I say we inform the city council of our plans of attending while OCing, also give a heads up to the State Police (Oak Park office). So if when we get thier they (ROPD) wont let us in we call the State Police for help.
I say we inform the city council of our plans of attending while OCing, also give a heads up to the State Police (Oak Park office). So if when we get thier they (ROPD) wont let us in we call the State Police for help.
scot623
Regular Member
I will be attending the Royal Oak Commission meeting tomorrow. It is important they know we are not going to let this unenforceable contract be used against us. The meeting is at 7:00pm.
sprinklerguy28
Regular Member
I will be there.
RandyK
Regular Member
Me too.
army74
Regular Member
i would be there but im out of town until sunday.
lapeer20m
Regular Member
I am going to try to come tonight, but i have a 4 day old baby so plans are subject to change.
here is the address again for those planning to attend:
Address for Commission meeting July 12,2010 7p.m.
City of Royal Oak,
211 S Williams Street, Royal Oak MI 48067
here is the address again for those planning to attend:
Address for Commission meeting July 12,2010 7p.m.
City of Royal Oak,
211 S Williams Street, Royal Oak MI 48067
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PDinDetroit
Regular Member
Time Change - 7:30 PM
It appears that the meeting time has changed according to the Royal Oak City Website. The new time is now 7:30 PM, with agenda item #5 being for Public Comment (3rd floor, room 315). The full agenda is at the following link below:
http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/porta.../meetings/City Commission/2010/20100712a.html
I will be there as well, probably around 6:45-7:00 PM just in case the time changes again. I called the information desk, the Public Comment time will have the mayor just call on people to speak with a 5 minute time limit.
It appears that the meeting time has changed according to the Royal Oak City Website. The new time is now 7:30 PM, with agenda item #5 being for Public Comment (3rd floor, room 315). The full agenda is at the following link below:
http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/porta.../meetings/City Commission/2010/20100712a.html
I will be there as well, probably around 6:45-7:00 PM just in case the time changes again. I called the information desk, the Public Comment time will have the mayor just call on people to speak with a 5 minute time limit.
eastmeyers
Regular Member
Does their need to be a comment card filled out like at the Pontiac City Council meeting?
PDinDetroit
Regular Member
Was not stated as required.
Evil Creamsicle
Regular Member
Whoa... no wonder I wasn't getting any friggin notifications... I forgot the forum moved.
Anyway... Sound like you guys are all set for OC
Anyway... Sound like you guys are all set for OC
Michigander
Regular Member
As I read preemption, they don't even have a right to rent city property temporarily with a no guns clause. My suspicion is that they damn well knew it when they signed it.
I doubt they would try to prosecute anyone, but it seems like a feel good attempt to fool people. This forum has become quite a watchdog of self defense rights. Dare I say, it has filled in the MCRGO void, and without the need for professional lawyers, instead having well rounded activists.
I doubt they would try to prosecute anyone, but it seems like a feel good attempt to fool people. This forum has become quite a watchdog of self defense rights. Dare I say, it has filled in the MCRGO void, and without the need for professional lawyers, instead having well rounded activists.
eastmeyers
Regular Member
Who is speaking? Is their a presentation? I do think I will try and make it, my friend is in labor at Royal Oak Beaumont, but geeze that stuff takes forever so I think I will be a okay if I wait for the women to get off work tonight to head up their, so I may as well take myself into the neighborhood.