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private armed security questions

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28kfps

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Not sure but I believe if you are being paid to provide "security services" and it can be proven that you are being paid, you must have the proper licencing. I believe that companies that provide security services must be bonded as well.

Now if it can be proven that you where hired to do maintenance work and that your primary responsibility is to do that work, there is no reason your employer can't permit you to be armed while on the job. It boils sown to what your primary job responsibilities are. If you are in plain clothes and armed it may be difficult to prove that your acting as a security guard, but if you are wearing a gun belt with a firearm, handcuffs, magazines, baton, pepper spray, and all manner of implements and also have a security logo or badge, it's going to be hard to make a case that security is not your primary function.

Nope, dozens of others and I have been paid, I for 6 years for similar security work. Very large property, large corporation. It is not uncommon for us to end up with metro involved issues. Metro is not interested in any security license they never ask. However, will verify we are an employee of the property.

Realistic if a business has 600 employees, as representatives of the property they have 600 security guards, only limited by company rules. They all have the same authority on private property as the employee in a security guard uniform. If an employee catches and stops a bad person on private property they work for, they have the same authority as the employee with the weapon and uniform. If the person in uniform decides to have a second job as an up for hired security guard working for different properties as a contracted service and not an employee, he will need to jump through the license hoops.
 

Mudjack

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True, you have to have the card if you are working in Gaming. But they don't give out Gaming Cards anymore. You simply register with the sheriff and once they check you out you are good to go. No one carries the card on their person anymore in Gaming.

And you can't just go and get a Gaming Card if you feel like it. You have to have a legitimate job in Gaming, you have to be hired first, before you can get one.
 

Mudjack

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And people working security can make a Citizen's Arrest and report crimes and get involved with the police, just like anyone else walking down the street or in the casino.

I've even seen security officers get arrested after they abused powers they thought they had but didn't have or when they went to far with someone and that someone left the premises and reported the incident to the police.

I saw one security officer lose his temper, pick up a roll of quarters off a desk, walk over and punch a man in the face with it. The man's jaw was broken, he slammed into a wall and broke his collar bone and his nose was broken. The security officer gave him a dirty rag to wipe himself off with, read him the Trespass Warning NRS 207.200 and turned him loose on the sidewalk. The man simply walked to the corner of the building, waved down a passing squad car, told the officer what had happened to him and the officer went inside and was shown the video tape of what security had done, then the officer walked over to the security officer and arrested him right there on the casino floor in front of everyone and charged him with assault and battery, a felony.

Security officers have no more power than the average citizen. Period.
 

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I work at Station Casino's (not security) I talked with a SG about them carrying He told me that it's their choice to carry, and they have to buy their own gun and don't receive any extra pay for carrying. I would think that is why most don't carry
 
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