New Lothrop passes illegal ordinance June 2010

I think you are missing the forest for the trees here guys....it is every councils job to know what they are voting for...it's clear that in most of S.E. MI either they don't or worse, choose NOT to follow the state law. They are the law makers, so yes I will rebuke them for violating mine & your rights.:X

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Glock9mmOldStyle wrote:

I think you are missing the forest for the trees here guys....it is every councils job to know what they are voting for...it's clear that in most of S.E. MI either they don't or worse, choose NOT to follow the state law. They are the law makers, so yes I will rebuke them for violating mine & your rights.:X

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Please do not misunderstand my post concerning New Lothrop's passing their ordinance as making excuses for them... it is not. It is only a mention that not all things are always super anti OC specifically.....

But it still doesn't hurt to use OC to remind officials of their duty to know the law... and abide by it!

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TAC said:

The way I'm reading their ordanacne, I don't see any problem...



The village of New Lothrop ordains: Sec. 1. Unlawfully carrying a weapon.
A person Commits the crime of unlawfully carrying a weapon if he knowingly:

a. Carries a knife concealed on or about his person; or

b. Carries a pistol concealed on or about his person; or

c. Carries a knife or pistol whether concealed or not in a vehicle that he is operating or occupying.

d. This Section does not apply to: 1. people who carry at home/business; 2. A person meeting the requirements of Sec 12/12a of Act No. 372 of the Public Acts of 1927, as amended, being Sec. 28.432, and 28.432a of the Compiled Laws of 1948.

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lapeer20m said:

their last council meeting was on Wednesday, June 9, at the village office, 9435 Beech St., New Lothrop at 7pm.

I would assume their next meeting will be the first wednesday in july. I will try and call them tomorrow to find out so we can attend and request they fix their mistake.

A couple of us went for a motorcycle ride to new lothrop today. I was open carrying. We ate pizza, got ice cream, walked around. No problems. City offices were closed. It is a pretty small town.

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Recoil88 said:

Why are you hiding your face?

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Bailenforcer said:

Why does this matter?

I won't allow my face on the internet either. I have and will meet open carry people, but my face is never to be published.

It is well within his right to not have the entire world knowing what he looks like.

Back on topic..

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Glock9mmOldStyle said:

Is that better?

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lapeer20m said:

I addressed the town board tonight about this issue. They said that they had already received a letter about this issue. The chief of police was also at the meeting. I talked to him afterward and he assured me that they will not be enforcing the ordinance.

the township attorney indicated that they are trying to decide if the preemption law actually applies to them or if there is some other law that would allow them to make such an ordinance. I mentioned to him that he could look at mcgro vs ferndale.

i stayed after the meeting and chatted with a few of the board members. They were quite friendly and wondered how it is that i happen to hear about their ordinance. I explained to them that it was in the newspaper. They informed me that they have had the ordinance for a long time, but just updated it last month to also include crossbows.

There was only one member who was obviously opposed to my firearm. He thought that i must have been a police officer. When i told him that i am just a regular citizen, he was quite concerned as he felt that guns cannot be brought into public buildings. I assured him it was perfectly legal. Unfortunately i did not have any tri-folds.

Then we chatted for a while about the city of flint, and they asked me what i thought would happen with them in regards to firearm ordinances. I told them that they will have to change it, but so far they seem to be dragging their feet.

They didn't really discuss the issue at all tonight, other than what i brought up. They are basically waiting for their attorney to finish researching the issue.

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lapeer20m said:

I addressed the town board tonight about this issue. They said that they had already received a letter about this issue. The chief of police was also at the meeting. I talked to him afterward and he assured me that they will not be enforcing the ordinance.

the township attorney indicated that they are trying to decide if the preemption law actually applies to them or if there is some other law that would allow them to make such an ordinance. I mentioned to him that he could look at mcgro vs ferndale.

i stayed after the meeting and chatted with a few of the board members. They were quite friendly and wondered how it is that i happen to hear about their ordinance. I explained to them that it was in the newspaper. They informed me that they have had the ordinance for a long time, but just updated it last month to also include crossbows.

There was only one member who was obviously opposed to my firearm. He thought that i must have been a police officer. When i told him that i am just a regular citizen, he was quite concerned as he felt that guns cannot be brought into public buildings. I assured him it was perfectly legal. Unfortunately i did not have any tri-folds.

Then we chatted for a while about the city of flint, and they asked me what i thought would happen with them in regards to firearm ordinances. I told them that they will have to change it, but so far they seem to be dragging their feet.

They didn't really discuss the issue at all tonight, other than what i brought up. They are basically waiting for their attorney to finish researching the issue.

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Bikenut said:

SNIP

I've been hearing more and more comments from officials about how angry they are to have sidearms carried by ordinary folks in THEIR BUILDINGS and in THEIR MEETINGS!!! And that this sort of thing surely should not be "allowed". How arrogant!

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