Results 1 to 24 of 24

Thread: Greensboro OC'ers willing to speak to the press...

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Greensboro, ,
    Posts
    235

    Post imported post

    I have been contacted by the local newspaper (News & Record) about OC int he Greensboro area in the run-up to the protest/demonstration in Guilford Battleground Park in August.

    I am trying to assist her in sifting through the wealth of information(and mis-information) on OC in general, especially in regards to North Carolina firearms laws.

    While I have spent some time discussing OC in general with the reporter, she is in need of more contacts (I cannot be directly quoted for the final article as my wife works for the paper and reporters are not allowed to use an employee's direct relative as a direct source except in rare cases).

    Therefore, I am posting an open request to Greensboro area members of this forum who might be interested in, or at least willing to be interviewed by her. if you will let me know your interest by reply post, I will PM you with contact info for me and you can contact me off-forum for further info.

    Thanks in advance for any help y'all can offer.









  2. #2
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    462

    Post imported post

    $20 says the article ends up being anti-gun.

  3. #3
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    High Point, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    246

    Post imported post

    Message me and ill give you my info, I'd be glad to help.

    P.S. My girlfriend hates that i open carry...well not hate but is really dislikes.

  4. #4
    Regular Member Ruger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Occupied Greensboro, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    548

    Post imported post

    I'll do it.
    Carry on!

  5. #5
    Regular Member Dreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Grennsboro NC
    Posts
    5,358

    Post imported post

    Whatever happened to "tekshogun"? He was in Greensboro, and he would be a real "curveball" to throw at the press as an OC advocate....


    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    High Point, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    246

    Post imported post

    Tek would be perfecccct.

    He didn't show up at the last meet up. I'm not real sure what happend to him.


    But I feel a meet up is in order, and invite the
    reporter.

  7. #7
    Moderator / Administrator
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Fairfax County, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    8,711

    Post imported post

    RayBurton72 wrote:
    I have been contacted by the local newspaper (News & Record) about OC int he Greensboro area in the run-up to the protest/demonstration in Guilford Battleground Park in August.

    I am trying to assist her in sifting through the wealth of information (and mis-information) on OC in general, especially in regards to North Carolina firearms laws.

    While I have spent some time discussing OC in general with the reporter, she is in need of more contacts (I cannot be directly quoted for the final article as my wife works for the paper and reporters are not allowed to use an employee's direct relative as a direct source except in rare cases).

    Therefore, I am posting an open request to Greensboro area members of this forum who might be interested in, or at least willing to be interviewed by her. if you will let me know your interest by reply post, I will PM you with contact info for me and you can contact me off-forum for further info.

    Thanks in advance for any help y'all can offer.
    great work - the more open carry gets discussed in teh press the more people will know about it; don;t forget to mention State v Kerner decision to reporters as guaranteeing right to open carry wihtout permit in NC.

  8. #8
    Regular Member Ruger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Occupied Greensboro, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    548

    Post imported post

    Preble wrote:
    But I feel a meet up is in order, and invite the
    reporter.
    Good idea

    Carry on!

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    High Point, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    246

    Post imported post

    Ray, you should contact them and see if they would come to a open carry meet.

  10. #10
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    150

    Post imported post

    I would perhaps be willing to speak to reporter anonymously. I would not be okay with using my name because of the clients we have may not enjoy that I am a proud gun owner (I know I'm a pushover, but sometimes professionally you have to be careful not incite your clients). Not sure if this adds any value. PM me if interested. Thanks

  11. #11
    Moderator / Administrator
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Fairfax County, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    8,711

    Post imported post

    farkles wrote:
    I would perhaps be willing to speak to reporter anonymously
    unless you are deep throat reporters have no need for you - we need normal looking and sounding americans to stand up and say normal calm logical n record.

  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Greensboro, ,
    Posts
    172

    Post imported post

    What could an OC'er say who has a pending charge with GPD related to OC??? Hmmm probably not much to help his legal situation. Too bad. He may have had something to offer.

  13. #13
    Regular Member Dreamer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Grennsboro NC
    Posts
    5,358

    Post imported post

    jp49911 wrote:
    What could an OC'er say who has a pending charge with GPD related to OC??? Hmmm probably not much to help his legal situation. Too bad. He may have had something to offer.
    NOTHING.

    The only people WORSE to talk to than the police while you have charges pending is the press...

    If you REALLY want to do this, I would HIGHLY recommend you have your attorney present...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
    --Barry Goldwater, 1964

  14. #14
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Greensboro, ,
    Posts
    172

    Post imported post

    Dreamer wrote:
    jp49911 wrote:
    What could an OC'er say who has a pending charge with GPD related to OC??? Hmmm probably not much to help his legal situation. Too bad. He may have had something to offer.
    NOTHING.

    The only people WORSE to talk to than the police while you have charges pending is the press...

    If you REALLY want to do this, I would HIGHLY recommend you have your attorney present...
    Oh did that sound like I was taking about me? That was "hypothetical" ...

    You are right; if "someone" where in that situation they'd be better served to sit this one out.

  15. #15
    Regular Member Ruger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Occupied Greensboro, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    548

    Post imported post

    [Waves hand]

    I'll do it.

    Sorry I'm not tekshogun.... but I do live in Greensboro, and I do open carry, and I do not have any pending charges of any sort.

    Also, I don't OC in my hand, and I don't OC a PLR-16 (or a draco AK pistol) spray painted orange or hello kitty pink!

    Carry on!

  16. #16
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
    Posts
    1,052

    Post imported post

    bwaahahahaaa, hi guys, been a good while

    I may be happy to give a quote.

    obviously no one that has been in the news already for (il)legal reasons and stick to the known NC laws. As far as I know, the information put together on those neat-o flyers are still pertinent.



  17. #17
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
    Posts
    1,052

    Post imported post

    News & Record printedDoug Clark'sarticle "Showing off Guns Says Armed and Ready"in today's edition of the paper, section A, page 13 (Second Opinion area).

    I was a bit miffed by by the time I was finished reading the article.

    He admits to knowing/believing there are more guns out there than one would think because North Carolina is a "concealed-carry state" and yet he is fine with that. Doug Clark is fine with "concealed carriers" as if an eight-hour class and shooting 80%in a huge target atseven yards is somehowconsiderably better than any open-carrier. I hope he has taken a concealed carry class and if not, he should even if he doesn't plan on carrying or even owning a gun.

    I would argue that anyone that knows open-carry is legal in North Carolina probably understands the laws better than any arbitrary person that had to have it spoon-fed to them in a CCW class. No offense meant to anyone, having taken the class my self.

    Also, why is it popular for journalists to make a connection with the Obama administration and carrying a gun openly? In North Carolina, I can assure Clark that no, it has nothing to do with Barack Obama... honestly, I'd be more far more afraid of not having a gun ifDick Cheney were around me.

    The kick-in-the-face statement of the article comes at the very end where Clarkreadsanyone that has a visible handgunas being"armed and dangerous" and he wishes they would "put them away".... why would you title the article with "Showing Off Guns Says Armed and Ready" only to flip that at the end.

    Mr. Clark, the dangerous people are criminals... those that have committed crimes and those that are willing to commit crimes.... Those that shoot helpless college class presidents, rape people and pillage, kill couples while they're hiking in the mountains, stab people, suffocate people, invade homes.... Clark, even if you'd whether see all guns everywhere gone, fine but that is a Utopian world. As recently proven in the UK, a gunless society just ends up getting shot-up by a criminal with a gun. Either the police have to show up after lots have already died or the shooter has to kill themselves.

    There is a deeper issue with Doug Clark's anti-open carry viewpoint. I feel, from the article, it is hoplophobia and he'd rather see them all gone. I don't write this to be insulting to Mr. Clark, but that is how I believe most of the compromising anti-gun establishment feels: "Well, I'd rather see them off the streets completely but since that isn't going to happen, I'd just rather not see them."

    I APPRECIATE SEEING OPEN-CARRIERS! I commend them, I recommend them, I defend them! There is typically no better human being than one that is concious about their safety, the safety of others (particularly their loved ones), and concious enough to be prepared and yes, while being visible...

  18. #18
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    150

    Post imported post

    tekshogun wrote:
    News & Record printedDoug Clark'sarticle "Showing off Guns Says Armed and Ready"in today's edition of the paper, section A, page 13 (Second Opinion area).

    I was a bit miffed by by the time I was finished reading the article.

    He admits to knowing/believing there are more guns out there than one would think because North Carolina is a "concealed-carry state" and yet he is fine with that. Doug Clark is fine with "concealed carriers" as if an eight-hour class and shooting 80%in a huge target atseven yards is somehowconsiderably better than any open-carrier. I hope he has taken a concealed carry class and if not, he should even if he doesn't plan on carrying or even owning a gun.

    I would argue that anyone that knows open-carry is legal in North Carolina probably understands the laws better than any arbitrary person that had to have it spoon-fed to them in a CCW class. No offense meant to anyone, having taken the class my self.

    Also, why is it popular for journalists to make a connection with the Obama administration and carrying a gun openly? In North Carolina, I can assure Clark that no, it has nothing to do with Barack Obama... honestly, I'd be more far more afraid of not having a gun ifDick Cheney were around me.

    The kick-in-the-face statement of the article comes at the very end where Clarkreadsanyone that has a visible handgunas being"armed and dangerous" and he wishes they would "put them away".... why would you title the article with "Showing Off Guns Says Armed and Ready" only to flip that at the end.

    Mr. Clark, the dangerous people are criminals... those that have committed crimes and those that are willing to commit crimes.... Those that shoot helpless college class presidents, rape people and pillage, kill couples while they're hiking in the mountains, stab people, suffocate people, invade homes.... Clark, even if you'd whether see all guns everywhere gone, fine but that is a Utopian world. As recently proven in the UK, a gunless society just ends up getting shot-up by a criminal with a gun. Either the police have to show up after lots have already died or the shooter has to kill themselves.

    There is a deeper issue with Doug Clark's anti-open carry viewpoint. I feel, from the article, it is hoplophobia and he'd rather see them all gone. I don't write this to be insulting to Mr. Clark, but that is how I believe most of the compromising anti-gun establishment feels: "Well, I'd rather see them off the streets completely but since that isn't going to happen, I'd just rather not see them."

    I APPRECIATE SEEING OPEN-CARRIERS! I commend them, I recommend them, I defend them! There is typically no better human being than one that is concious about their safety, the safety of others (particularly their loved ones), and concious enough to be prepared and yes, while being visible...
    Tek, I don't get the paper but wanted to read the article. Can't seem to find it online, do you have a link? Thanks!

  19. #19
    Founder's Club Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
    Posts
    1,052

    Post imported post

    If they post his stuff online (which they do sometimes), it isn't up yet. Best I can do is give you a link to his biopage which has a list of his online articles. You can keep checking there and I think they have a day delay: http://www.news-record.com/whois/doug_clarkand http://www.news-record.com/blog/offtherecord/



    Here is a blurb he posted a couple days ago about a carrier:

    http://www.news-record.com/blog/2010...ing_your_piece

  20. #20
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    High Point, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    246

    Post imported post

    Ahhh I hate it when they called it a "piece"


    Sounds so whitE trash/gangster

    Ugh

  21. #21
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Greensboro, ,
    Posts
    235

    Post imported post

    mekender wrote:
    $20 says the article ends up being anti-gun.
    That is why my wife asked me if I was willing to work with the reporter on background (to discuss NC gun laws, etc. outside the article itself so she would have a better understanding of the topic in general) and to help her find some people who would be willing to speak to her on the record.

    If we do not attempt to set the record straight, then can we really be upset when the record is wrong?

    Reporters are not subject matter experts. They often have to rely on help/guidance from those they cover to get them started. The easier we make it for them, the more likely they are to get the full story - which means better info to the masses.

  22. #22
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Greensboro, ,
    Posts
    235

    Post imported post

    Preble wrote:
    Ray, you should contact them and see if they would come to a open carry meet.
    I know she would, but I want to move this along a little bit first... if she has time to talk to a couple of people first, it would make a meeting much more productive for everyone involved.

  23. #23
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Greensboro, ,
    Posts
    235

    Post imported post

    PMs sent to those who raised their hands (or otherwise indicated interest).

    please contact me off-board so we can exchange contact /background info and discuss logistics..

    So everyone else knows the scoop, I spoke with her at length on the phone the other night. We are meeting tomorrow evening to discuss more about it.

    I hope to have all the contact information from the volunteers to give her. Once I get that, i will contact those and let them know who will be calling them.





  24. #24
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    462

    Post imported post

    Ray, if what you say is the case, count me in...

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •