Thundar
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P4P – P4P – P4P – P4P - Virginia Question - Privileges For Permittees (P4P) Does it help or hurt the RKBA in the Commonwealth? P4P-P4P-P4P-P4P-P4P
Does the continued effort to enhance the privileges that the Commonwealth grants to Concealed Handgun Permit holders (permittees) help or hurt the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in the Commonwealth?
I believe that P4P is at best a double edged sword.
The middle ground is dangerous.[/b] The concealed handgun permit is a sort of middle ground between “government trained and government trusted” LEO and citizen. It gives emotionally charged anti-gunners a sense of security when they have the power to grant (and remove) gun privileges. The problem is that the P4P system is based on emotion, not logic. The consequence is that the privilege is not always even related to the permit. The classic example is: Why is your legal ability to carry an AK 47 with a folding stock in Norfolk dependent on whether you have obtained a concealed handgun permit? Do not forget that when the political winds are unfavourable to gun owners this middle ground can be used very effectively by the antis to harm gun rights with efforts short of outright bans.
Outright conversion of a right into a privilege is possible.[/b] My parents live in Florida. There is no RKBA in Florida (unless you are going fishing!) The right has been snuffed out and replaced by a concealed carry privilege. The ability of a state to destroy a right by allowing a privilege is, IMHO, the most dangerous aspect of P4P.
Healing the Rift.[/b] There is a rift between open and concealed carriers. Each sees the other as having the potential to harm their ability to carry as they see fit. This fault line is already out there and will only get worse in the future. It will be used by the anti gunners to try and isolate the open carriers from the larger group of concealed carriers. We should make the passage of Constitutional Carry our top 2011 priority. Arizona did it. This sort of rift doesn’t exist in Arizona. Virginia needs to be next.
Imagine a Commonwealth where CC=Constitutional Carry!!!
Live Free or Die,
Thundar
P4P – P4P – P4P – P4P - Virginia Question - Privileges For Permittees (P4P) Does it help or hurt the RKBA in the Commonwealth? P4P-P4P-P4P-P4P-P4P
Does the continued effort to enhance the privileges that the Commonwealth grants to Concealed Handgun Permit holders (permittees) help or hurt the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in the Commonwealth?
I believe that P4P is at best a double edged sword.
The middle ground is dangerous.[/b] The concealed handgun permit is a sort of middle ground between “government trained and government trusted” LEO and citizen. It gives emotionally charged anti-gunners a sense of security when they have the power to grant (and remove) gun privileges. The problem is that the P4P system is based on emotion, not logic. The consequence is that the privilege is not always even related to the permit. The classic example is: Why is your legal ability to carry an AK 47 with a folding stock in Norfolk dependent on whether you have obtained a concealed handgun permit? Do not forget that when the political winds are unfavourable to gun owners this middle ground can be used very effectively by the antis to harm gun rights with efforts short of outright bans.
Outright conversion of a right into a privilege is possible.[/b] My parents live in Florida. There is no RKBA in Florida (unless you are going fishing!) The right has been snuffed out and replaced by a concealed carry privilege. The ability of a state to destroy a right by allowing a privilege is, IMHO, the most dangerous aspect of P4P.
Healing the Rift.[/b] There is a rift between open and concealed carriers. Each sees the other as having the potential to harm their ability to carry as they see fit. This fault line is already out there and will only get worse in the future. It will be used by the anti gunners to try and isolate the open carriers from the larger group of concealed carriers. We should make the passage of Constitutional Carry our top 2011 priority. Arizona did it. This sort of rift doesn’t exist in Arizona. Virginia needs to be next.
Imagine a Commonwealth where CC=Constitutional Carry!!!
Live Free or Die,
Thundar