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    Where have all the Libertarians Gone?

    We always hear the news medias spreading all of this BS and giving out bad information and statistics in support of the anti gunners.

    Very seldom do we see the members of the media who stand up and tell it like it is. "The Libertarians."

    Most of the media think it is too dangerous to let them speak up to the public. Hopefully times are changing with such anchors as John Stossel.

    He has always been fair in his reporting and I am glad to see the videos he has out on the peoples right to carry.

    Where have all the libertarians gone?
    Long time passing.
    Where have all the Libertarians gone?
    Long time gone.
    Where have all the Libertarians gone?
    Gone to hiding, every one.
    When will they soon return?
    When will they soon return?

    Soon, I hope.

    John Stossel - More guns less crime?

    Part 1 of 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UySthtM9y1Y
    Part 2 of 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx-qhSABdSE
    Part 3 of 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o4W7v1viNs
    Part 4 of 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgppjkg8jOg
    Part 5 of 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1V_dMaZgEM
    Part 6 of 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bgZawVWiEs
    Part 7 of 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTNuqR5HZTg
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    Ho ho, very good!

    But I am not a libertarian. I am a conservative, or, if it is preferred, a paleo-conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    But I am not a libertarian. I am a conservative, or, if it is preferred, a paleo-conservative.
    I used to consider my self a conservative, I am leaning more toward Libertarian-Constitutionalist every day. I don't think the conservative party is what they used to be anymore.

    To many under handed back room deals going on these days.

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    Thank you J. Going to post the links on fb later. For the people who still, "dont get it."

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    Calling yourself a concervitive today does not have the same meaning as it did years ago. Todays conservitives claim they want limited government, but only their version of limited government. They still stand for building the military empire,surpressing a womens right to abortion, gay rights etc... Today the libertarians seem to understand best what freedom is meant to be, freedom for all even if you don't like it. There is way to much emotion in todays politics. We need more politicians like Ron and Rand Paul, they are not perfect but they are closer to what our founders intended than most politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny amish View Post
    Calling yourself a concervitive today does not have the same meaning as it did years ago. Todays conservitives claim they want limited government, but only their version of limited government. They still stand for building the military empire,surpressing a womens right to abortion, gay rights etc... Today the libertarians seem to understand best what freedom is meant to be, freedom for all even if you don't like it. There is way to much emotion in todays politics. We need more politicians like Ron and Rand Paul, they are not perfect but they are closer to what our founders intended than most politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny amish View Post
    Calling yourself a concervitive today does not have the same meaning as it did years ago. Todays conservitives claim they want limited government, but only their version of limited government. They still stand for building the military empire,surpressing a womens right to abortion, gay rights etc... Today the libertarians seem to understand best what freedom is meant to be, freedom for all even if you don't like it. There is way to much emotion in todays politics. We need more politicians like Ron and Rand Paul, they are not perfect but they are closer to what our founders intended than most politicians.
    I agree and I think I am going all Libertarian and will write in every Libertarian name on the ballots. I will only select a Conservative if there is no Libertarian to write in. It is time to send them a message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Gleason View Post
    I agree and I think I am going all Libertarian and will write in every Libertarian name on the ballots. I will only select a Conservative if there is no Libertarian to write in. It is time to send them a message.
    This is what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Gleason View Post
    I will only select a Conservative if there is no Libertarian to write in. It is time to send them a message.
    I don't believe that there is a "Conservative Party" to vote for registered in Wisconsin.

    I was thinking about this thread earlier today, while being miserable with otitis externa. I used to say that I could vote LP when I could spurn a druggie in the gutter and not feel guilty. And that would never happen because we have painted ourselves into a healthcare corner, the only way out of which is to leave bloody footprints in the paint. Guess what? Things ain't gotten any better with the election of the left to the White House. ---damn the Obamanation and its thug union thugs (Iggy_K'niggit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    I don't believe that there is a "Conservative Party" to vote for registered in Wisconsin.

    I was thinking about this thread earlier today, while being miserable with otitis externa. I used to say that I could vote LP when I could spurn a druggie in the gutter and not feel guilty. And that would never happen because we have painted ourselves into a healthcare corner, the only way out of which is to leave bloody footprints in the paint. Guess what? Things ain't gotten any better with the election of the left to the White House. ---damn the Obamanation and its thug union thugs (Iggy_K'niggit).
    You got that right. I heard Obama wants the 1st Amendment amended to stop Political speech. This guy could single handedly start the next revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Gleason View Post
    I agree and I think I am going all Libertarian and will write in every Libertarian name on the ballots. I will only select a Conservative if there is no Libertarian to write in. It is time to send them a message.
    Do you mean Libertarian view points, or Libertarian party? A candidate of any party can have Libertarian view points, much like Ron and Rand Paul. However, just because someone is in the Libertarian party, doesn't mean they have those view points, much like Olympia Snowe, even though she's part of the traditional "conservative" party, doesn't mean she's any where near a conservative.

    Vote on the person, not the party

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    Thanks for posting those links. Very enjoyable to watch those.

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    For years I have been voting libertarian, the political world doesn't seem to have a home for me anymore. I have found the libertarins to be a direction far too unexplored, most people don't know that we have more than the two poisonous options. For years the republicrats have left me feeling hollow and dissapointed, if they aren't trying to stomp on our freedoms and liberties the are busy trying to build an empire to rule the world. Both parties need to learn how to MYOB......

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    Firstly,
    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    But I am not a libertarian. I am a conservative, or, if it is preferred, a paleo-conservative.
    Thanks for that Doug! Just having that word and you in my mind at the same time made my day.


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    I agree and I think I am going all Libertarian and will write in every Libertarian name on the ballots. I will only select a Conservative if there is no Libertarian to write in. It is time to send them a message.
    Oh wow, a pro-union Libertarian? Looks like you have yourself a conundrum! :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brass Magnet View Post
    Firstly,

    Thanks for that Doug! Just having that word and you in my mind at the same time made my day.


    And J,

    Oh wow, a pro-union Libertarian? Looks like you have yourself a conundrum! :-P
    I may be a union member, but I don't run whinning to the union for every petty issue either. There are too many who abuse the unions. I am not one. There are good points about unions as well when it comes to labor standards and so on. Could you imagine what labor standards would be like if there never were any unions?

    The state employee's Union supports Barrett, that doesn't mean he gets my vote.

    I guess I am just sick of the Republicrats and Obamicans as well. Until the Conservatives can prove where they stand, call me a Libertarian or better yet a Constitutionalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Gleason View Post
    I may be a union member, but I don't run whinning to the union for every petty issue either. There are too many who abuse the unions. I am not one. There are good points about unions as well when it comes to labor standards and so on. Could you imagine what labor standards would be like if there never were any unions?

    The state employee's Union supports Barrett, that doesn't mean he gets my vote.

    I guess I am just sick of the Republicrats and Obamicans as well. Until the Conservatives can prove where they stand, call me a Libertarian or better yet a Constitutionalist.
    IMHO, there was a time when unions were needed but those days have passed. I believe that one of the few jobs that goverment actually should do is make sure we don't get screwed, and they've done that in regards to working conditions for some time now. After working in one and being subject to another I'd never work in a union again.

    Crud OT allert.... uhm.... How about that Supreme court decision!
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    I must admit I do agree with you on the labor standards.The true meaning of labor unions was lost long ago. They will never again have the same meaning and purpose as they did for the miners, textile workers and steel workers. Now it's all about politics.

    "Crud OT allert.... uhm.... How about that Supreme court decision! [/QUOTE]

    Finally a win they can't take away from us!
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    I have worked in a union shop for the past 18 yrs. What can be said, well, unions suck!!!! Today unions want to protect the lazy and undeserving. There is no denying that unions of the past have benifited all of us, 40 hr. work week, over time pay, safe work enviroment,etc... Unions of today protect the lowest common denominator, they do not reward excellence. They support national health care, welfair reform and other entitlement programs, nothing to do with labor. They would rather live equally in slavery than unequally in freedom. Am I better off because I am part of a union, probably, but they seem to be loosing their direction and focus. They spend large sums of money each year on canidates who don't know the first thing about freedom, canidates who don't believe in personal responsibility, canidates who openly support shipping our jobs to China and Mexico.

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