ichigo
Regular Member
Rereading what happened I would've done things a little different. I felt at the time I handled myself in a professional way without giving up my rights. I'm grateful to those who post their stories and I have learned from each one. Mine happened early Saturday morning 6:30 AM. To shorten the story, my truck broke down in Farmington on the off ramp of Park Lane. The Utah Hyway Patrol station is on Park Lane and I had to walk past it to get where I needed to for help. Walking by, I was called over to “talk”. Heres how it went.
Officer 1: Everything okay?
Me: Yep just getting the truck you were about to impound on the off ramp...you know the one that was right there.
Officer 1: Oh okay, just wanted to make sure everything was okay. Does that gun have a round chambered?
Me: No, but I am legal to carry.
Officer 2: No you are not legal to open carry with one chambered.
Me: Yes you are if you have a permit.
Officer 2: No you aren't. That just means you can conceal with one chambered.
Me: Yes you can Officer I have the laws in my wallet. Would you like to read/see it?
Officer 1: Yes.
Me: I am going to reach into my pocket and keep my hands off the fire arm is that okay?.. and am I free to go after I show you this?
Officer 1: Yes, Why are you carrying? You know it scares people.
Me: Silently fumbling through the codes.
Officer 1: Why are you carrying a gun openly.
Me: Still silent.
Officer 1: Obviously you don't want to tell my why.
Me: Correct, I don't feel I need to. “Oh here it is, 76-10-523...Persons exempt from firearm laws... Do not apply to any persons to whom a permit to carry a firearm has been issued”
Officer 2: Oh ya well if you have a permit and you didn't tell us you had one.
Me: I told you I didn't have one chambered. (I guess I didn't make it a huge point to tell them I had a permit, nerves I guess)
Officer 1: Well we just saw someone jump out of a truck with a gun and cross the street and wanted to say hey.
Me: So you stop everyone that jumps out of a vehicle and crosses the street to make sure they are legal?
Officer 1: If I want to.
Me: Turning away instantly..in a hurry...had to be somewhere at 7:15 AM, “See ya fellas”.
That was that and I went on my way. This account was the best of my knowledge of how it went down. I admittedly was a little shook up because I'm not into confrontations. They didn't ask for ID. I don't even know why we were having the argument. I didn't have one in the chamber and they didn't ask to check. I frequently transfer from my smart carry to my blackhawk serpa holster. Its my built in safety..its just the way I carry. Take this advice, know what you are going to do and say before you have the encounter and things will go much smoother. I had forgotten my recorder that day too. It would've been nice to hear the conversation played back to get the details and learn what could be changed if it ever happens again.
Kyle
-banki-
Officer 1: Everything okay?
Me: Yep just getting the truck you were about to impound on the off ramp...you know the one that was right there.
Officer 1: Oh okay, just wanted to make sure everything was okay. Does that gun have a round chambered?
Me: No, but I am legal to carry.
Officer 2: No you are not legal to open carry with one chambered.
Me: Yes you are if you have a permit.
Officer 2: No you aren't. That just means you can conceal with one chambered.
Me: Yes you can Officer I have the laws in my wallet. Would you like to read/see it?
Officer 1: Yes.
Me: I am going to reach into my pocket and keep my hands off the fire arm is that okay?.. and am I free to go after I show you this?
Officer 1: Yes, Why are you carrying? You know it scares people.
Me: Silently fumbling through the codes.
Officer 1: Why are you carrying a gun openly.
Me: Still silent.
Officer 1: Obviously you don't want to tell my why.
Me: Correct, I don't feel I need to. “Oh here it is, 76-10-523...Persons exempt from firearm laws... Do not apply to any persons to whom a permit to carry a firearm has been issued”
Officer 2: Oh ya well if you have a permit and you didn't tell us you had one.
Me: I told you I didn't have one chambered. (I guess I didn't make it a huge point to tell them I had a permit, nerves I guess)
Officer 1: Well we just saw someone jump out of a truck with a gun and cross the street and wanted to say hey.
Me: So you stop everyone that jumps out of a vehicle and crosses the street to make sure they are legal?
Officer 1: If I want to.
Me: Turning away instantly..in a hurry...had to be somewhere at 7:15 AM, “See ya fellas”.
That was that and I went on my way. This account was the best of my knowledge of how it went down. I admittedly was a little shook up because I'm not into confrontations. They didn't ask for ID. I don't even know why we were having the argument. I didn't have one in the chamber and they didn't ask to check. I frequently transfer from my smart carry to my blackhawk serpa holster. Its my built in safety..its just the way I carry. Take this advice, know what you are going to do and say before you have the encounter and things will go much smoother. I had forgotten my recorder that day too. It would've been nice to hear the conversation played back to get the details and learn what could be changed if it ever happens again.
Kyle
-banki-