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Violence Policy Center Statement on McDonald ruling

c45man

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It is pathetic that the decision was not 9-0. Apparently we have 5 consitutional scholars and 4 judicial activists that want to rewrite the constitution from the bench.

As far as the anti-gun ownership organizations are concerned, they are irrelevant. They got their guy in the white house and a sympathetic congress to the anti-gun agenda. Still can't get anything passed.

American people are realizing that the anti-second amendent organizations have an agenda based on lies and distortions.
 

JT

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Yep. They are trying to link gun lobbyists and criminals.

It is an old lesson. Whatever the deceitful are claiming you are doing is actually what they are doing. If your nasty, deceitful opponent claims you kill puppies, just go look in the dumpster behind his house and see if you don't find some dead puppies. If your nasty, deceitful opponent claims you have financial irregularities, just start looking into his finances. Surprising how often it works.

The real story is that the gun-grabbers have been supporting robbers and rapists for years by rendering citizens vulnerable to criminals. And, they know it.

This. Nail, meet Hammer.
 

suntzu

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If it were possible to vote someone off of the island we call America--those who work for the VPC and the Brady Center would be among those I would vote off this island...I say they should all be given to the French--the British have been punished enough...
 

Grapeshot

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You have to insert the word "gun" in front of "criminals." Otherwise you implicate Congress.

Leave the word "gun" out and let the meaning stand.

Just as I blame the VT administration and the GA in part for the 33 lives lost - they were/are the enablers.

Yata hey
 

rushcreek2

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Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Center and Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, issued the following statement:

“................We are pleased that the Court reaffirmed its language in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment individual right to possess guns IN THE HOME (CAPS inserted for emphasis) for self-defense does not prevent our elected representatives from enacting common-sense gun laws to protect our communities from gun violence. We are reassured that the Court has rejected, once again, the gun lobby argument that its ‘any gun, for anybody, anywhere’ (OUTSIDE OF THE HOME) agenda is protected by the Constitution. The Court again recognized that the Second Amendment allows for reasonable restrictions on firearms, including who can have them and under what conditions, where they can be taken, and what types of firearms are available.................................."

WRONG again- Brady Bunch. The constitutionally protected right of self defense embodied in the keeping & bearing (YES -of a HANDGUN) exists wherever the need to exercise that right arises-regardless of statutory restrictions. The Court allowed for certain "reasonable" contemporary restrictions, but no restriction negates the fundamental substantive right. That right was recognized yesterday by the Supreme Court as being a pre-existing and protected substantive right under the U.S. Constitution, and that same federal constitutional protection is now extended into state and local jurisdictions. Although the Court was asked in Heller and McDonald to address the issue of KEEPING in the home, the substantive right to KEEP and BEAR arms incorporated under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment never has been and cannot be confined to the home.
 

Citizen

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Yep. They are trying to link gun lobbyists and criminals.

It is an old lesson. Whatever the deceitful are claiming you are doing is actually what they are doing. If your nasty, deceitful opponent claims you kill puppies, just go look in the dumpster behind his house and see if you don't find some dead puppies. If your nasty, deceitful opponent claims you have financial irregularities, just start looking into his finances. Surprising how often it works.

The real story is that the gun-grabbers have been supporting robbers and rapists for years by rendering citizens vulnerable to criminals. And, they know it.

Speak of the devil. On one of the John Stossel videos in another current thread, one of the gun-grabbers directs at John the accusation that when John declares he wants a gun to defend himself, he puts everyone else in danger.

And, when we look in the dumpster for dead puppies, we find that it is actually the anti-s who are endangering everyone else when they ban or heavily restrict guns and perpetrate their hysterical anti-gun propaganda.
 

Dreamer

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And, when we look in the dumpster for dead puppies, we find that it is actually the anti-s who are endangering everyone else when they ban or heavily restrict guns and perpetrate their hysterical anti-gun propaganda.


And we also find that the LOUDEST proponents of gun control often are the ones who are the most dangerous and lawless when armed. They assume that because THEIR OWN are so emotionally immature, mentally unstable, racist, untrustworthy, duplicitious and sociopathic, that EVERYONE with a gun must be like that...

Barbara Graham--Million Mom March organizer who, in a drive-by shooting, shot and paralyzed an innocent man in "retaliation" for her son's shooting.

Carl Rowan--Washington Post writer and vehement gun-grabber, who shot a neighborhood kid for swimming in his pool without his permission.

Diane Fienstein, Barbara Maculsky, Michael Bloomberg, Sean Penn--national politicians/celebrities who are vocally anti-gun, routinely engage in lies, fraud, duplicity, and double-speak, and yet have STILL somehow sneaked through the Concealed Carry permit process and have CC permits...
 

elixin77

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Diane Fienstein, Barbara Maculsky, Michael Bloomberg, Sean Penn--national politicians/celebrities who are vocally anti-gun, routinely engage in lies, fraud, duplicity, and double-speak, and yet have STILL somehow sneaked through the Concealed Carry permit process and have CC permits...

But, but, why do they have CC permits if they are so anti-gun? Why would they need to conceal a gun if they are trying to get rid of all the guns, and make it so others can't get/use them? But why would they need a gun if they don't plan on using it for self defense?

Bunch of freaking hypocrites, all they are. :banghead:
 

Jack House

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Barbara Graham--Million Mom March organizer who, in a drive-by shooting, shot and paralyzed an innocent man in "retaliation" for her son's shooting.

Carl Rowan--Washington Post writer and vehement gun-grabber, who shot a neighborhood kid for swimming in his pool without his permission.
Don't forget that they both used illegal weapons. ;D
 

The Donkey

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Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Center and Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, issued the following statement:

“................We are pleased that the Court reaffirmed its language in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment individual right to possess guns IN THE HOME (CAPS inserted for emphasis) for self-defense does not prevent our elected representatives from enacting common-sense gun laws to protect our communities from gun violence. We are reassured that the Court has rejected, once again, the gun lobby argument that its ‘any gun, for anybody, anywhere’ (OUTSIDE OF THE HOME) agenda is protected by the Constitution. The Court again recognized that the Second Amendment allows for reasonable restrictions on firearms, including who can have them and under what conditions, where they can be taken, and what types of firearms are available.................................."

WRONG again- Brady Bunch. The constitutionally protected right of self defense embodied in the keeping & bearing (YES -of a HANDGUN) exists wherever the need to exercise that right arises-regardless of statutory restrictions. The Court allowed for certain "reasonable" contemporary restrictions, but no restriction negates the fundamental substantive right. That right was recognized yesterday by the Supreme Court as being a pre-existing and protected substantive right under the U.S. Constitution, and that same federal constitutional protection is now extended into state and local jurisdictions. Although the Court was asked in Heller and McDonald to address the issue of KEEPING in the home, the substantive right to KEEP and BEAR arms incorporated under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment never has been and cannot be confined to the home.

It was the Brady Center who argued in their briefs that the Court should clarify, post-Heller, what standard of review to apply in determining whether gun regulations can pass constitutional muster. This the Court declined to do.

Now the Brady Center is trying to claim that their being correctly ignored was some kind of victory.

O where is that <barf> icon when needed?
 

Grapeshot

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It was the Brady Center who argued in their briefs that the Court should clarify, post-Heller, what standard of review to apply in determining whether gun regulations can pass constitutional muster. This the Court declined to do.

Now the Brady Center is trying to claim that their being correctly ignored was some kind of victory.

O where is that <barf> icon when needed?

The nicest one I could find - least offensive. :cool:



Yata hey
 

SlackwareRobert

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Twins maybe?

Could the Bradies be related to the NRA?
They both claim victories no matter what the outcome is, or what
the argument they were making before the decision.

Kommifornia celebs are not hippocrits, they are 'Priviledged' and
therefore are allowed the permit that the rifraf cannot have.
Nothing to do with guns, everything to do with being above the law.

As for criminals, if it wasn't for that master mind gangster McDonald
there would be no 2a ruling. So support your criminal masterminds
or we don't move forward. Only a criminal can get recognized by the court.
 
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