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    Angry VSP website

    Was looking at the VSP site to see what they had to say about unlicensed CC in a secured container in a personal vehicle and found a mistake.

    The site states that it is legal if in a LOCKED container.

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    Good catch.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Oops, apparently they didn't notice that the final version of the law was changed from "locked" to "secured".

    http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Transporting.shtm

    Also, see the new version of the code, updated yesterday, I presume:

    § 18.2-308

    Section B.10.
    10. Any person who may lawfully possess a firearm and is carrying a handgun while in a personal, private motor vehicle or vessel and such handgun is secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel.

    Very good catch! Most of us on these boards don't even bother reading the VSP site, because when push comes to shove, what they say doesn't really matter, only the Code of Virginia does.

    TFred

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    W hen push comes to shove it could mean a sticky situation if the Trooper who pulled you over thinks that the container was supposed to be locked instead of just secured Hopefully they're not giving the troopers bad info and are informing them that it only has to be secured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdbarge View Post
    W hen push comes to shove it could mean a sticky situation if the Trooper who pulled you over thinks that the container was supposed to be locked instead of just secured Hopefully they're not giving the troopers bad info and are informing them that it only has to be secured.
    To the contrary... if the VSP website says "locked", I don't have any doubt that they think the law says "locked". I would count on state troopers being incorrectly informed.

    I guess it's better to have too many people write and tell them than to have nobody write and tell them. They do provide a Contact Us page with e-mail addresses. They have responded to me in the past about stuff.

    I recon I'll drop them a note. I doubt anyone will respond until after the holiday.

    TFred

    P.S. This isn't a case where we need to change someone's mind... it's a simple mistake, I'm pretty certain they will fix it as soon as they can.
    Last edited by TFred; 07-02-2010 at 05:46 PM. Reason: P.S.

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    Mail sent... and HA! I've got so much McDonald on the brain from this week, I almost sent it with the sentence:

    This statement reflects a preliminary version of the law that was changed when Governor McDonald sent it back to the General Assembly for final action.

    Oops!! That would have been embarrassing!

    TFred

    P.S. I did also suggest that they check to ensure that the troopers had been given the correct information! Talk about a lawsuit... being arrested and charged with a crime that doesn't exist...!

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    Good on ya, TFred!

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    I also sent an email letting them know about the "typo". Hopefully the change comes quickly after the holiday weekend.

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    Heard back from the VSP! Kinda surprised they got back to me so quickly. Hopefully the page gets changed after the long weekend.


    Dear Mr. Barge,

    We are aware of the error and the page will be corrected as soon as possible.

    Thank you,

    , Manager
    Firearms Transaction Center
    Department of State Police
    Post Office Box 85608
    Richmond, VA 23285-5608
    TEL: 804-674-2210
    FAX: 804-674-2791

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    Yep, I got a reply as well! Looks like they're working on a Saturday.

    TFred

    Dear Mr. TFred (ha ha, not really!),

    Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The page will be corrected as soon as possible.

    Sincerely,

    Donna K. Tate, Manager
    Firearms Transaction Center
    Department of State Police
    Post Office Box 85608
    Richmond, VA 23285-5608

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