kryptonian
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http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/fbi-crime-stats-show-an-armed-public-is-a-safer-public/
yet another reason to OC
yet another reason to OC
Good article! I like to send that stuff to people who don't know.
I'm happy the intruder was killed! But I'm not sure why the homeowner didn't shoot first... I dunno about you people, but anyone in my house is a clear threat. I'm not gonna wait to get shot at before I decide to neutralize the threat. Agreed:question:
Good point. But I think in Detroit, breaking and entering does constitute and imminent threat! :lol:
thought you guys would find it interesting. i actually went looking for crime stats that would show INCREASED crime to show why OC was necessary but found this instead. this works even better. stats don't lie.
And before deadly force can be used, even in the home, there must be an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm...
780.951 Individual using deadly force or force other than deadly force; presumption; definitions.
Sec. 1.
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), it is a rebuttable presumption in a civil or criminal case that an individual who uses deadly force or force other than deadly force under section 2 of the self-defense act has an honest and reasonable belief that imminent death of, sexual assault of, or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another individual will occur if both of the following apply:
(a) The individual against whom deadly force or force other than deadly force is used is in the process of breaking and entering a dwelling or business premises or committing home invasion or has broken and entered a dwelling or business premises or committed home invasion and is still present in the dwelling or business premises, or is unlawfully attempting to remove another individual from a dwelling, business premises, or occupied vehicle against his or her will.
(b) The individual using deadly force or force other than deadly force honestly and reasonably believes that the individual is engaging in conduct described in subdivision (a).
Sorry Bikenut but Michigan law disagrees with you.
780.951Individual using deadly force or force other than deadly force; presumption; definitions.
Sec. 1.
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), it is a rebuttable presumption in a civil or criminal case that an individual who uses deadly force or force other than deadly force under section 2 of the self-defense act has an honest and reasonable belief that imminent death of, sexual assault of, or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another individual will occur if both of the following apply:
(a) The individual against whom deadly force or force other than deadly force is used is in the process of breaking and entering a dwelling or business premises or committing home invasion or has broken and entered a dwelling or business premises or committed home invasion and is still present in the dwelling or business premises, or is unlawfully attempting to remove another individual from a dwelling, business premises, or occupied vehicle against his or her will.
(b) The individual using deadly force or force other than deadly force honestly and reasonably believes that the individual is engaging in conduct described in subdivision (a).
The law allows us to assume that some one who is breaking in or has already broken into our home or place of business is there to do us great bodily harm, death, or rape. There are exceptions to this that can be read at the link.
Bronson