This is a pretty good read... gave me some perspective on Liberal argument and the 2A
"Liberals can quote legal precedent, news reports, and exhaustive studies. They can talk about the intentions of the Founders. They can argue at length against the tyranny of the government. And they will, almost without exception, conclude the necessity of respecting, and not restricting, civil liberties.
Except for one: the right to keep and bear arms."
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Some "liberals" are finally getting it. The Republicrats will always disagree on some of the issues but one thing they should get together on is the entire BoR.
Now, if the Democrats start advoacting the 2A and Republicans start understanding the other parts of the BoR what will happen?
Lex malla, lex nulla
"Liberals" are in full control now. They are infringing on Liberty left and right--not just the 2A. The liberal movement in this country today is not about Liberty. It is about government taking care of the citizenry, which, by nature, restricts Liberty.
Lastly, if you check the link and read some of the comments you will soon see that a lot of the commenters are classic liberals, which we indeed need more of.
Lex malla, lex nulla
Lex malla, lex nulla
So, feel free to repeat one more time that my reply is off the topic of this thread. Feel free to bring Republicans and Democrats into it again, implying that I have done so. Feel free to roll your eyes again. I don't care. I have made my point and will move on.
"Such a narrow interpretation of this particular right is inconsistent with the otherwise broad interpretation of the Bill of Rights. And just as conservatives weaken their own arguments about protecting the Second Amendment when they will not fight as vigilantly for protecting all the others, so too do liberals weaken their arguments for civil liberties, when they pick and choose which civil liberties they deem worthy of defense."
Thank you. Couldn't have said it better!
Wow, that was a great read! Thank you for posting it.
I don't see that eye95 hijacked anything. He is spot on in his analysis of the article. The article is wrong. He is spot on with his statement that liberals are in total control and are trouncing on liberty everyday. Hijacked?? I don't think so.
Liberals will talk a good story about advancing liberty, but the truth is they want full control of our lives. That ain't liberty. Never has been, never will be.
This has always been the most dishonest thing about the Democratic Party.
Democracy, as is the root of their own party's name, requires that power be in the hands of the people. Without a gun in the peoples' hands, who counts the votes? You know well no politician of any kind would ever do anything but lie, cheat, steal, and kill, if there were not an armed citizenry with a gun to their heads forcing them to do as we say.
No matter what your Political Affiliation/Faction, you know damn well that politicians are the ultimate scum of the earth. Giving them all the guns supports Democracy how? It doesn't.
What happened to the old Democratic Republicans? People who knew that mob rule would result in the same tyranny as a monarchy, and tempered it with a list of Rights that no one could touch? It's common-sense, and it was outlined in our Constitution. The only reason it doesn't work, is because it isn't being used.
Furthermore, it's my opinion that the liberals know they cannot grasp absolute power while the people have the means to resist, and that is their ultimate agenda.
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That entire article sounded very Libertarian which is not related to today's Liberal's. Today's Liberal loves Government intervention as long as it coincides with their ideology. In this way they are no different than Today's Republican.
Otherwise, it was an excellent write up.
Let's face it, politics in America is BIG BUSINESS
You don't get into a political career these days to try and make a difference. You do it to take the next step up the ladder, and the next, and the next... all the while pocketing as much as you can along the way. You placate to those who can help your personal agenda until you reach the point where it becomes more beneficial to work for your party's agenda... assuming you're one of the TWO.
I would love to see term limitations in every level of government. But I sincerely doubt that will happen. It is hard enough to get them to vote a decrease in their own pay, let alone shorten the life expectancy of the golden goose.
A friend of mine recently joked that we only have one political party in America... the Economic Party.
Sadly change is next to impossible. A whole nation of people is set in motion and it is extremely difficult to sway a group of people that large... even if they agree with you. It will take a major socio-economic event which affects the group as a whole.
You can lead a cow anywhere you want it to go. But don't bother trying to direct a stampede... you will only get trampled.
Propaganda, Bush bashing, and a Liberal unification war cry, thatís all it was, painting themselves are angles perched over and protecting the Constitution. Liberals, I mean progressiveís, talk the two face trash talk all day long, if anyone thinks it sincere, OMG. I saw no mention of the illegal alien running this administration and the fornication of the constitution, and justice system by them. Blame-Blame, never take any responsibility, Liberals that is.
What's the difference between Democrats and Republicans?
Democrats want all the power they can get, damn the cost.
Republicans want the same power, they just don't want to pay as much for it.