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    Dispatcher: Units in V3, a 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center. The male is inside the business to the rear of, has a 413 that's tucked into the back of his pants. We're still landline. (6:53)

    K916: K916 back on channel. (7:03)

    D: K916 (7:04)

    AIR5: AIR5, we're going to go to the Costco first. (7:11)

    D: AIR5, copy. (7:14)

    2X12: 2X12 (7:20)

    D: 2X12 (7:21)

    2X12: You can disregard the air unit, I see customers coming out (related to a seperate 407A) (7:25)

    D: 2X12 copy. K914, if you could be en route with AIR5 on the 413 at Costco in V3, 801 S. Pavillion Center. (7:35)

    K916: K916, you can assign me as well. (7:42)

    D: K916, copy. (7:44)

    D: 2V16, if you'll also be en route on the 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center. The male inside the business is acting erratic, throwing merchandise around, possibly high on unknown type of 446. (8:03)

    2V16: 2V16 copy, from the Suncoast. (8:07)

    D: 2V16, they are requesting CIT. Male is possibly ED. 767, did you copy? (8:16)

    767: Put me en route to that please. (8:19)

    D: 767. (8:21)

    2DP62: 2DP62, clear me and show me en route. (8:25)

    D: 2DP62. (8:26)

    767: 767 (8:37)

    D: 767. (8:38)

    767: Go ahead and have medical en route also, just to stand by for us. (8:41)

    D: 767, copy. (8:42)

    2V55: 2V55, can you clear me B-baker and show me en route to Costco. (8:53)

    D: 2V55, affirmative. (8:56)

    2V16: 2V16 en route code. (8:58)

    D: 2V16 (9:00)

    2V55: 2V55, same traffic. (9:04)

    D: 2V55 (9:05)

    351WC: 351. (9:11)

    D: 351 (9:12)

    351WC: Have those units shut down code when they get close. Let's not get this guy more exicted than he already is. (9:18)

    D: 351, copy. Units, shut down code when you get close to the Costco. (pause) (9:23)

    D: Units en route on the 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center, suspect's described as a White male, 32, 5'8, medium build, red hair, wearing a gray t-shirt, blue jeans, and white shoes, break. A black 9MM is tucked to the rear of his pants. (pause) (9:53)

    D: 767, could you advise where you'd like medical to stage for now? (10:46)

    767: Just have them stage, uh to the nearest intersection to that Costco. If you could have them not roll code, that'd be great also. (10:57)

    D: 767 copy. Did you want other units to shut down code? (11:02)

    767: I just want everybody to shut it down before they get close to that area; I don't want to spook this guy. (11:08)

    D: Okay, copy. All units, justs reminding to shut down code when you get close to the area. (11:13)
    767: 767 (11:18)

    D: 767 (11:20)

    767: I need a few more units that could head to that area also, so that we can shut down that parking lot so that nobody goes in or out of there. (11:28)

    D: 767, copy. (11:31)

    2X12: 2X12, you can assign me. (11:33)

    D: 2X12 (11:35)

    2X65: 2X65, same traffic. (11:43)

    D: 2X65 (11:45)

    351WC: Control, 351, where's the CP going to be? (11:49)

    D: 767, can you advise? (11:54)

    767: I'm not even close to there right now, so if we have a unit that's in there that could set up one real quick, that'd be great. (12:01)

    2V54: 2V54, I'm arriving in the Costco parking lot, where do you want me? (12:07)

    D: 2V54, at this time uh, I guess heading up a CP. (12:16)

    AIR5: AIR5, did you have any further at all? (12:22)

    D: It looks like the subject is still inside the business, argumentative with the manager who asked him to leave, telling him there's no 413's allowed inside the business, break. The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413. He's throwing merchandise around; he's still in isle 126 in the camping area, break. He appears to be fidgety. A female joined the male. She's described as Hispanic, 30s, black long hair, wearing black tank and blue jeans. Security's going to be standing outside the business in front of, to wait for officers to direct, break. He's walking through the camping area towards the front of the business on the main isle. (13:18)

    2V54: 2V54, did you want me to stop people from going in the business? (13:22)

    D: Uh 767, that's affirmative. Stop in or out? (13:26)

    767: Affirm. (13:28)

    D: V54, affirmative, uh V54, did you want a red? (13:32)

    2V54: Hold off for a moment. (13:34)

    D: Okay, copy. (13:35)

    2X65: Control, 2X65 (13:37)

    D: 2X65 (13:38)

    2X65: Run this by the WC and Sarge. If we could get the management and employees to start slowly evacuating people out of the business without alerting anybody, that'd be a great idea. (13:50)

    351WC: Control, 351WC, absolutely. (13:53)

    D: Acknowledge that. (13:57)

    2V54: 2V54, manager says it's escalating inside and he's still talking loudly and destroying merchandise. (14:06)

    D: 2V54, copy. 2V54, are you able to get security started on exacuations? (14:14)

    2V54: Affirm (14:16)

    D: Okay, copy. (14:17)

    2V16: 2V16, I'm out with 2V54. (14:55)

    D: 2V16 (14:57)

    Unknown bit of traffic (14:59)

    D: All units, code red this channel. Officers arriving on the 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center. (15:07)

    2V16: 2V16, we need units to clear these people out of here. We're attempting to evacuate right now; get as many people out as possible. (15:45)

    D: 2V16, copy. (15:47)

    351WC: 351WC, where's the CP? (16:45)

    D: Uh 2V54, can you advise location of CP? (16:50)

    AIR5: AIR5, they're both right in the front entrance to the store. (16:55)

    D: AIR5, copy. (16:57)

    784: 767, 784 I'm arrived. What can I help you out with? (17:07)

    767: You can set up the CP, that'd be great. (17:10)

    784: : Copy, I'll set one up. (17:15)

    AIR5: AIR5, are we still landline with anyone who has eyes on this guy, because there's a lot of people pouring out of the store. I just want to make sure he doesn't slip out. (17:28)

    2V16: We got 2 officers here at the front doors watching everybody come out. (17:36)

    D: 2V16, copy. AIR5, it looks like we're still landline. It looks like the male is still being watched by inside personnel due to him ripping open packages. They're concerned of a 414A. (17:49)

    2V16: Copy, we've got a very orderly evacuation going on right now. We'll try to get all these people out of here and then figure out what we're going to do next. (18:00)

    D: 2V16. (18:01)

    2V54: He's directly in the middle of the building. (18:08)

    D: Okay, copy. Confirming suspect's directly in the center of the building? (18:14)

    2V54: ___ isle. (18:16)

    D: You broke on the isle, could you re-advise? (18:20)

    784: 784, copy location for IC. (18:31)

    D: 784 (18:32)

    784: It's going to be set up at the northwest parking lot at the Red Rock Casino across Charleston. It'll be the Costco command. I'll be incident commander until the arrival of 351WC. (18:46)

    D: 784 copy. 351WC, incident command at northwest parking lot of Red Rock Casino across Charleston. (18:55)

    AIR5: Control, AIR5, we need 1 unit to take the north side of the Costco please, right off of Pavillion Center so they can keepy an eye on the back and the east side. (19:02)

    2V16: (yell) 2V16, we got shots fired, shots fired! (19:11)

    D: 2V16, copy. Anyone down? (19:12)

    2V16: Roll medical. (19:13)

    D: 2V16. (19:15)

    767: Go ahead and make the notifications. (19:19)

    2V16: Notify supervisor. (19:21)

    D: 2V16, copy. (19:22)

    351WC: 351WC, I'm arrived, south end of the building. Is it safe for everybody else to enter the building? (19:28)

    D: 2V16, can you advise? (19:30)

    2V16: He pulled a 413 and pointed it in my direction. (19:38)

    D: 2V16, copy. (19:40)

    767: 767, can yu go ahead and make your notifications, please? (19:43)

    D: 767, copy. (19:45)

    767: Shut that parking lot down, please. (19:47)

    D: Units arriving on the 413, shut down the parking lot. (19:51)

    AIR5: They've got him out front, they're taking him into custody. Hold the traffic. (19:57)

    D: AIR5, copy. Subject is out front, taking into custody. (20:01)

    767: 767, let's make sure nobody else exit's that Costco right now. We may need to pull witness statements. (20:17)

    D: 767, copy. Units, make sure no one else exits the Costco, they may need for witness purposes. (20:24)

    784: Copy that they're taking him into custody. We're going to move the CP closer to the Burger King directly across from the Costco. (20:35)

    D: Copy that, CP will be moving closer to the Burger King (20:39)

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    Would very much like to know how this purported radio transcript came to be available on an on going investigation.

    If true, certain elements are painted very differently.
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    I've removed product from packaging in Costco. I've never thought of it as destroying merchandise. I'll just buy the stuff and return it if it doesn't work from now on.

    I can relate to this guy somewhat. I was accused by the cops of being "argumentative", "disruptive" and "furious" while armed in a Costco. Cops investigated, cops wrote TNDPS and suspended my handgun permit and that was one of the reasons. I was in contact with one of their corporate attorneys after I subpoenad a witness and a video tapes of the alleged incident. The corporate attorney contacted me and said the "witness" never saw me being argumentative. I told her I have never had a conversation with any employee or person at costco about weapons. She also told me they had no video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Would very much like to know how this purported radio transcript came to be available on an on going investigation.

    If true, certain elements are painted very differently.
    It seems real enough. The link to the audio was posted over on Nevada shooters website. It does not answer too many questions for me though. I still am of the mindset the LVMPD acted wrongly here.

    There is a website that is police scanner related and they record and archive stuff. This one comes from that website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Would very much like to know how this purported radio transcript came to be available on an on going investigation.
    Somebody recorded the radio transmissions. Somebody listened to the recording and typed the words spoken on a computer. Somebody posted the transcript on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yard Sale View Post
    Somebody recorded the radio transmissions. Somebody listened to the recording and typed the words spoken on a computer. Somebody posted the transcript on the internet.

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    I think I heard in a promo that the sheriff is supposed to be on KXNT tomorrow to talk about the recent officer involved shooting and supposedly take callers. It was Alan on the promo so I can only assume that it's during his show. I listened a bit longer trying to re-hear the promo but got home before they played it again. Nothing I can find on their website except that Alans show is 3p-6p.

    Thought others might be interested.

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    Gun on the ground?

    If Eric Scott pulled out his gun and pointed at the Cops why wasn't it on the ground after he ws shot 7 times? I read the papers from the LV area, and the witnesses said they did not see a gun on the ground? Did Eric have time to reholster it before he was killed?
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    Did anyone see this on the news yesterday?


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    No I hadn't seen that and I have been looking.. Thanks for posting!

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    Just so you all know, Erik Scott's inquest will be on Sept. 10th in the Las Vegas Regional Justice Center.

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    Just heard/saw this... good for them. Friends/family purchased billboards asking for witnesses to come forward. Glad this is being pressed and not "forgotten about".

    http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/24377093/detail.html

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    We just got this hard hitting editorial in the RJ. I'm glad to see it. It's a must read:

    http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/a-few-qu...9.html?ref=929

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasGeorge View Post
    We just got this hard hitting editorial in the RJ. I'm glad to see it. It's a must read:

    http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/a-few-qu...9.html?ref=929
    "If I point a firearm at someone it's considered to be a crime, called "assault." If I shoot a police officer simply because he puts his hand on the butt of his sidearm while it's still in the holster, I'll go to prison (at best). How come cops don't go to prison if they shoot someone simply for touching a gun? I suppose people will say, "You're not in danger if a policeman puts his hand on his gun, because they don't go around shooting people.""

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    When I saw who wrote it, I knew it would hit them hard. He didn't disappoint.

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    Just adding this: I finished reading all the comments, and the 911 operator "Jeremy.Olson" is full of it. His job is to question callers and get as much information as possible about the subject's behavior. Dispatching all units Code 3 to "Man with a gun" because someone's shirt rode up, is not in the interest of officer safety. More police are killed in traffic accidents than by gunfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Would very much like to know how this purported radio transcript came to be available on an on going investigation.

    If true, certain elements are painted very differently.
    It was originally posted on AR15.com... Here is a quote (WITH THE ACTUAL AUDIO FILE) posted on yet another site.

    Crazynova on AR15.com made the transcription from the following arrchive:

    http://www.radioreference.com/apps/a...es&feedId=4657

    That's the archive site for the NWAC channel. The OIS from Thursday night is on there too, but you need a paid subscription to listen to it. I have is saved, so I'll try to find a host and upload it.

    Edit: Costco OIS http://www.filedropper.com/costcoois1 <- ACTUAL AUDIO FILE OF THE DISPATCH

    I would normally be hesistant about sharing this, since it hasn't been officially released, but many sites archive scanner traffic. You can find it easily if you look, so to me it is already public information.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=416896&page=7
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    My first Open Carry in the PSRK

    Wanted to share my first experience Open Carrying in the People's Socialist Republic of Kalifornia. Driving from Las Vegas To Yuma, I stopped just short of the state line on US95 to unload, drove through Vidal Junction where I stopped to use the restroom at a the one and only convenience store there. Their store's policy was that a customer may use the restroom free of charge, all others must pay a small fee to get a restroom Key. Made a purchase with my considerably lighter firearm plainly observable to ordinary observation just when you guessed it, a CHP officer from the inspection station across the road came inside. As I passed him while he shopped, he asked me if I still had one in the chamber, to which I simply replied, "Would you care to inspect my firearm?" he said no, and I continued about my business, without answering his question I might add. As soon as I crossed over to the AZ side of the river, I reloaded.

    Several customers and people out stretching their legs saw that I was armed and, GHASP, no one panicked. in Kalifornia of all places no less. I guess a MWAG is no more a threat there than they are in Nevada or Arizona.

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    It seems the Cali officer was familiar with Open Carry law, and aware of the Fact that he did not have to inspect your firearm. Sounds like a very fair encounter.

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    YouTube police radio communications

    For those who don't want to or can't download the MP3 file, here is the LVMPD communications on YouTube...

    Part 1:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCj5j7-TlMU

    Part 2:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h15QF0ne0k4

    Transcript above
    Last edited by Yard Sale; 07-27-2010 at 06:18 PM. Reason: transcript link

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    inquest postponed indefinitely

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/Coroners-in...4.html?ref=404

    the inquest has been indefinitely postponed at the request of the district attorney’s office

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    That sounds convenient. Are they going to postpone until everyone forgets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwikrnu View Post
    That sounds convenient. Are they going to postpone until everyone forgets?
    Or perhaps until after the election?

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    Just heard on TV5 news update Metro has postpone the Coroner's inquest into the Costco shooting indefinitely.
    Last edited by 28kfps; 07-27-2010 at 11:58 PM.

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    wow this just keeps getting more and more suspicious. Watch yourselves out there boys and girls.

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