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    OCed on the Madison Lakes on a boat

    Last weekend I OCed on a boat while passing a DNR boat and although they watched me with binoculars, they didn't stop me. I open carried an unloaded firearm to comply with the Wisconsin statutes.

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    Good for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyridn View Post
    I open carried an unloaded firearm to comply with the Wisconsin statutes.
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    Good for you! Please tell us with which Wisconsin statutes you complied? Yes, we all know it - except the newbies and scofflaws - but that isn't the rule. Please tell us.

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    If you are fishing from shore are you able to openly carry a loaded firearm?

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    all of this is new to me; you can carry on a boat (presumebly holstered), but unloaded? sounds like this boat was in california......carry on land? i guess if it's private property, but i'm not sure, and would realy appreciate someone telling me how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheyjam View Post
    If you are fishing from shore are you able to openly carry a loaded firearm?
    The fishing has nothing to do with it. It is the motor-operated boat, while motoring, that "prevents" the loaded firearm. If on shore, ask yourself about the "no-carry" zones. If you're clear then it's fine.


    Just don't shoot any fish!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyridn View Post
    Last weekend I OCed on a boat while passing a DNR boat and although they watched me with binoculars, they didn't stop me. I open carried an unloaded firearm to comply with the Wisconsin statutes.
    167.31(2)(a)
    (a) Except as provided in sub. (4), no person may place, possess or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a motorboat with the motor running, unless the firearm is unloaded or unless the bow or crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying case.
    30.50(6)
    (6) "Motorboat" means any boat equipped with propulsion machinery, whether or not the machinery is the principal source of propulsion.

    Here you go MCX. This is the statute to which I believe he was referring. No case requirement for firearm in the motorboat. I can't find a statute that restricts OC in a non-motorized boat though. Just keep in mind where the body of water is located, such as a state park.

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    isn't a boat considered a vehicle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhancock View Post
    167.31(2)(a)
    (a) Except as provided in sub. (4), no person may place, possess or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a motorboat with the motor running, unless the firearm is unloaded or unless the bow or crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying case.
    30.50(6)
    (6) "Motorboat" means any boat equipped with propulsion machinery, whether or not the machinery is the principal source of propulsion.

    Here you go MCX. This is the statute to which I believe he was referring. No case requirement for firearm in the motorboat. I can't find a statute that restricts OC in a non-motorized boat though. Just keep in mind where the body of water is located, such as a state park.
    if bowfishing......

    167.31(4)(bn)
    (bn) Subsection (2) (a) does not apply to a person using a bow or a crossbow for fishing from a motorboat .


    Of course, in the DNR Spearing Regulations:
    "It is unlawful to use a crossbow for spearing fish. There may be local public safety
    ordinances that prohibit the use of a bow and arrow in some areas. Please check with
    your local law enforcement office for further information."
    Last edited by phred; 07-11-2010 at 05:24 PM. Reason: Added DNR but....

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    Quote Originally Posted by revolverrandy View Post
    isn't a boat considered a vehicle?
    No. The essential element of 'vehicle' is "drawn upon the highway."

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    how about if you carry in a canoe or kayak or a rowboat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezhed View Post
    how about if you carry in a canoe or kayak or a rowboat?
    I have not found a statute against it. Keep in mind the whole restricted from state parks and some county parks also still have ordinances on the books. That brings to beg a good question about the Mississippi River though. Do you need to know where the actual border is between the states or are you ok in a non motorized vessel as long as you are on the water?

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    Awesome..

    My hat goes off to you for carrying on a boat and thereby informing/reminding the public and LEOs of our rights. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhancock View Post
    167.31(2)(a)
    (a) Except as provided in sub. (4), no person may place, possess or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a motorboat with the motor running, unless the firearm is unloaded or unless the bow or crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying case.
    30.50(6)
    (6) "Motorboat" means any boat equipped with propulsion machinery, whether or not the machinery is the principal source of propulsion.

    Here you go MCX. This is the statute to which I believe he was referring. No case requirement for firearm in the motorboat. I can't find a statute that restricts OC in a non-motorized boat though. Just keep in mind where the body of water is located, such as a state park.
    The way I see it you can OC on a motor boat but ONLY if the motor is off.
    I mean if you can't possess a firearm in a motorboat that would mean no hunting from one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lance galloway View Post
    The way I see it you can OC on a motor boat but ONLY if the motor is off.
    I mean if you can't possess a firearm in a motorboat that would mean no hunting from one.
    As long as the gun is unloaded you can OC all you want in a boat. Looks like it can be loaded when the motor is off though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhancock View Post
    167.31(2)(a)
    (a) Except as provided in sub. (4), no person may place, possess or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a motorboat with the motor running, unless the firearm is unloaded or unless the bow or crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying case.
    30.50(6)
    (6) "Motorboat" means any boat equipped with propulsion machinery, whether or not the machinery is the principal source of propulsion.
    It does no damn good to cite a statute to the sucking illiterate hemorrhoids!
    Last edited by Doug Huffman; 07-12-2010 at 11:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    It does no damn good to cite a statute to the sucking illiterate hemorrhoids!

    Geeeeezzzz Doug,

    I didn't know hemorrhoids had any IQ at all, much less suck. Were you implying that OCDO should have an ad for Preparation H someplace on the screen?

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