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    OC lashed out at again from the CCW crowd.

    Read comment #9 and notice no one else gives a desputing word to his statement.

    http://www.missouricarry.com/forums/...ad.php?t=57299

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    most of the individuals over at MC...i've found to be retarded at best and far less than entertaining.

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    yah i dont like how he has automatically chosen to link this to the OC crowd. but it could be a posibility it was an OC person trying to draw attention. i dont think its wrong for him to put it out there as a posibility. i mean others have thrown other posibilities out as well. from it being a prank, or trying to scare someone in city hall. only problem i see with him throwing it out there. is his personal opionion of the oc crowd( calling them boneheads) that he added to it when he said he might be from the OC crowd.

    personally it prob was just some nut case with a mental problem.

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    LOL that guy has OC'd, he knows goalseter88, PM'd me about the little frucus a couple of days ago.

    Not a bad guy, found that post surprising though.

    Anytime a news article is posted via only a link, I skip it so I had not been following that one.

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    anyone want to post it here? i'm not registered on that forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash50 View Post
    anyone want to post it here? i'm not registered on that forum.
    "I was wondering that myself. There have been some boneheads of late that think it's a good idea to OC or pull stunts like this so they can have guaranteed police contact and video to try to force a 2A incident. Unfortunately, they foolishly forget about the Patriot Act and what that means if the Gov't decides to pursue "terroristic threats" against anyone, including a US citizen. "


    Was posted in a response of sorts to the guy in st joe OC with a disassembled rifle, put it back together and took off running shedding his clothing. All of which remain press reports so caution is as usual required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrepuyan View Post
    most of the individuals over at MC...i've found to be retarded at best and far less than entertaining.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofalloncarry View Post
    Well said.
    Well those retarded individuals had enough smarts to organize, keep their mouths shut when needed and effect change that both of you benefit from.

    That is one hell of a lot more than any one has done by putting a pistol on their side and walking around.

    If one has to consider what the retarded ones have accomplished compared to the name callers, I will take the morons every time! I doubt it bothers them much, they likely just consider the source.

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    I'm trying to understand how the comments of one person can somehow be attributed to the whole "ccw crowd"?

    I dare say that there have been comments made here on this forum that the majority of users would not agree with, whether they said anything about them or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cshoff View Post

    I dare say that there have been comments made here on this forum that the majority of users would not agree with, whether they said anything about them or not.

    I know I did on the nonresident citizen issue. I will again too, it is part of being passionate about things, sometimes you are blind to the meanings of what you type.

    Like I said, the man whom made the statement actually does open carry and has open carried with members of this forum and indeed this thread.

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    He's right. Deal with it.

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    Everyone gets so heated talking about this it's almost funny.

    festus...who is right? It's unclear who you're referring to.

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    To me,considering this sites position this entire thread is at best hypocritical.

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    open carry group spg mo

    hey everyone i have been busy so fill me in hope all is well and still carrying

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMTD View Post
    Well those retarded individuals had enough smarts to organize, keep their mouths shut when needed and effect change that both of you benefit from.

    That is one hell of a lot more than any one has done by putting a pistol on their side and walking around.

    If one has to consider what the retarded ones have accomplished compared to the name callers, I will take the morons every time! I doubt it bothers them much, they likely just consider the source.
    They(the outspoken majority of mocarry) organized for one reason. To gain a license to sneak around with a gun. When the most states either have or is gaining the same thing, It is not like they invented the wheel. The possible that it may have happened with out the bribes and back room deals that it took to get it done. Missouri does not exist in a vacuum of space.

    To carry a pistol openly on one's side is among many things an expression of freedom. One that I believe should be as an option to how I, you or even the group that thinks sneaking your gun around under your petticoat is the only right way to carry.

    What they have accomplished is to be able to gain a license to carry a weapon in the secretive way, Once they got what they wanted the preceded to disband. The 2nd Amendment was not the backbone of there agenda. There exists the difference in them and us. We are believers of freedom for all, choices and rights that "Shall not be infringed" We may become defensive when provoked and called "Boneheads" for our belief in the freedom and choices the 1st and 2nd Amendments give us, but I for one will continue to embrace my Constitutional Rights and express myself as a free man on any occasion I see fit.


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    Some have problems with or ignore the successes of other states and suggest that it can't or won't work here.

    At last glance there are a lot of "boneheads" in a lot more bonehead states.
    http://www.opencarry.org/opencarry.html

    Oh, and yes I am hardheaded too, especially about my rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cash50 View Post
    Everyone gets so heated talking about this it's almost funny.

    festus...who is right? It's unclear who you're referring to.
    The guy he's talking about at mocarry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohighlyunlikely View Post
    They(the outspoken majority of mocarry) organized for one reason. To gain a license to sneak around with a gun.

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    Jesus, some of you are plain retarded. At least they don't call the cops on themselves for AMWAG.

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    Well played Hagen

    Quote Originally Posted by Festus_Hagen View Post
    Jesus, some of you are plain retarded. At least they don't call the cops on themselves for AMWAG.
    Hagen, if I am not mistaken you are an outspoken posting member of mocarry.
    Thank you for proving my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohighlyunlikely View Post
    Hagen, if I am not mistaken you are an outspoken posting member of mocarry.
    Thank you for proving my point.

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    Well I'm a member,although not sure how "outspoken" I may be, but I'm a member here too. I just see more provoking here than I do there.

    I guess they would just rather not poke a sleeping bear with a stick, where folks like you like to try and provoke the law and the public, which hurts all the gun advocates, OC or CCW. I know you are on a crusade to save the world, I just happen to not agree with any of your methods. Sorry if that irritates you.

    NOW you see my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohighlyunlikely View Post
    They(the outspoken majority of mocarry) organized for one reason. To gain a license to sneak around with a gun. When the most states either have or is gaining the same thing, It is not like they invented the wheel. The possible that it may have happened with out the bribes and back room deals that it took to get it done. Missouri does not exist in a vacuum of space.

    To carry a pistol openly on one's side is among many things an expression of freedom. One that I believe should be as an option to how I, you or even the group that thinks sneaking your gun around under your petticoat is the only right way to carry.

    What they have accomplished is to be able to gain a license to carry a weapon in the secretive way, Once they got what they wanted the preceded to disband. The 2nd Amendment was not the backbone of there agenda. There exists the difference in them and us. We are believers of freedom for all, choices and rights that "Shall not be infringed" We may become defensive when provoked and called "Boneheads" for our belief in the freedom and choices the 1st and 2nd Amendments give us, but I for one will continue to embrace my Constitutional Rights and express myself as a free man on any occasion I see fit.


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    Excuse me, did you REALLY just type all that out? Lets take a look at that and my hypocrite statement shall we?

    1. You claim to have had a permit through special circumstance since 1995. The special circumstances were limited to judges, parole and probation officers, police officers and process servers. If we assume the latter, that was NOT a permit to carry a concealed weapon any time other than when it was court approved and serving that case per 506.145 as defined via State vs Binnington 1998

    2 I think more than a few would indeed say I am an outspoken member of MoCarry. So that license to "sneak around with a gun opened doors for you to openly carry your gun as you have specifically noted here on this forum and you do indeed carry with your CCW permit in those areas that would other wise restrict you from indeed enjoying the freedom you proclaim to enjoy so much.

    3 You have the audacity as you enjoy that expanded freedom to accuse those whom brought that freedom to you of illegal activity and implied wearing of 1930's circa undergarments while you did nothing to support such changes but gladly partake in them now that others worked for them for one and all, interesting perspective.

    4 I suppose the efforts that managed to get castle doctrine so you would not be sued for not running out of your house when the robber broke in, nor are any longer straddled with the duty to retreat from that home.

    5 I suppose getting that castle doctrine expanded to include your car as well remains unimportant to you.

    6 Perhaps you would like to see the permit to acquire reapplied so when you choose to sell your pistol any one whom says they would like to do so has to wait 15 days for the sale to be legal.

    No more whining about the lack of support from the CCW crowd sir, not when you call em criminal, unethical, and inferred cross dressers especially when the topic fueling it is RIFLE carry, something this site specifically forbids the discussion of and you yourself have stated you think it is bad for open carry.

    Thank you for driving the point home, I am sure it has done a lot in the effort to see changes in the laws and won a huge amount of support from those whom have taken the steps to regain the freedoms once lost you now brag about enjoying.

    I might be mouthy, I might have an ego, but I ain't a hypocrite and I can say without any doubt, I truly enjoy the freedoms I funded, worked for, rallied for, supported candidates for, and I will continue to do the same until I am done without any regard for the detractors and whiners of the world who sit and watch it happen then attack those who did it for not doing enough. There is a word for that, but I think I shall refrain.

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    The Bear?

    Quote Originally Posted by Festus_Hagen View Post
    Well I'm a member,although not sure how "outspoken" I may be, but I'm a member here too. I just see more provoking here than I do there.

    I guess they would just rather not poke a sleeping bear with a stick, where folks like you like to try and provoke the law and the public, which hurts all the gun advocates, OC or CCW. I know you are on a crusade to save the world, I just happen to not agree with any of your methods. Sorry if that irritates you.

    NOW you see my point.
    Well Mr Hagen,
    I'm sorry you have an issue with me expressing my 2nd Amendment right through openly carrying a firearm in the casual and mature manner that I believe I do it in. If you do not believe I should do that then so be it. This is America and you have every right express your distaste for my style of Open Carry. My question is what style of Open Carry is it that you do support? Or if any at all?
    I'm not sure I see your point "NOW". My only guess is that it is better to fear the bear? Tip toe around the bear? Is the bear you speak fearfully the government? LEOs? the general public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohighlyunlikely View Post
    Well Mr Hagen,
    I'm sorry you have an issue with me expressing my 2nd Amendment right through openly carrying a firearm in the casual and mature manner that I believe I do it in. If you do not believe I should do that then so be it. This is America and you have every right express your distaste for my style of Open Carry. My question is what style of Open Carry is it that you do support? Or if any at all?
    I'm not sure I see your point "NOW". My only guess is that it is better to fear the bear? Tip toe around the bear? Is the bear you speak fearfully the government? LEOs? the general public?

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    LMAO ... " THE BEAR ...lol.

    The style I support is the wear your gun, don't try to be a martyr style. You CERTAINLY have something against mocarry after I just browsed your posts. Not sure why your open carry is so great, but if another group CCW's, they are scared of THE BEAR? Or whatever the hell you mean...lol.

    Gimme a break dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMTD View Post
    Excuse me, did you REALLY just type all that out? Lets take a look at that and my hypocrite statement shall we?

    1. You claim to have had a permit through special circumstance since 1995. The special circumstances were limited to judges, parole and probation officers, police officers and process servers. If we assume the latter, that was NOT a permit to carry a concealed weapon any time other than when it was court approved and serving that case per 506.145 as defined via State vs Binnington 1998

    2 I think more than a few would indeed say I am an outspoken member of MoCarry. So that license to "sneak around with a gun opened doors for you to openly carry your gun as you have specifically noted here on this forum and you do indeed carry with your CCW permit in those areas that would other wise restrict you from indeed enjoying the freedom you proclaim to enjoy so much.

    3 You have the audacity as you enjoy that expanded freedom to accuse those whom brought that freedom to you of illegal activity and implied wearing of 1930's circa undergarments while you did nothing to support such changes but gladly partake in them now that others worked for them for one and all, interesting perspective.

    4 I suppose the efforts that managed to get castle doctrine so you would not be sued for not running out of your house when the robber broke in, nor are any longer straddled with the duty to retreat from that home.

    5 I suppose getting that castle doctrine expanded to include your car as well remains unimportant to you.

    6 Perhaps you would like to see the permit to acquire reapplied so when you choose to sell your pistol any one whom says they would like to do so has to wait 15 days for the sale to be legal.

    No more whining about the lack of support from the CCW crowd sir, not when you call em criminal, unethical, and inferred cross dressers especially when the topic fueling it is RIFLE carry, something this site specifically forbids the discussion of and you yourself have stated you think it is bad for open carry.

    Thank you for driving the point home, I am sure it has done a lot in the effort to see changes in the laws and won a huge amount of support from those whom have taken the steps to regain the freedoms once lost you now brag about enjoying.

    I might be mouthy, I might have an ego, but I ain't a hypocrite and I can say without any doubt, I truly enjoy the freedoms I funded, worked for, rallied for, supported candidates for, and I will continue to do the same until I am done without any regard for the detractors and whiners of the world who sit and watch it happen then attack those who did it for not doing enough. There is a word for that, but I think I shall refrain.
    Agreed 100% LMTD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMTD View Post
    Excuse me, did you REALLY just type all that out? Lets take a look at that and my hypocrite statement shall we?

    1. You claim to have had a permit through special circumstance since 1995. The special circumstances were limited to judges, parole and probation officers, police officers and process servers. If we assume the latter, that was NOT a permit to carry a concealed weapon any time other than when it was court approved and serving that case per 506.145 as defined via State vs Binnington 1998

    2 I think more than a few would indeed say I am an outspoken member of MoCarry. So that license to "sneak around with a gun opened doors for you to openly carry your gun as you have specifically noted here on this forum and you do indeed carry with your CCW permit in those areas that would other wise restrict you from indeed enjoying the freedom you proclaim to enjoy so much.

    3 You have the audacity as you enjoy that expanded freedom to accuse those whom brought that freedom to you of illegal activity and implied wearing of 1930's circa undergarments while you did nothing to support such changes but gladly partake in them now that others worked for them for one and all, interesting perspective.

    4 I suppose the efforts that managed to get castle doctrine so you would not be sued for not running out of your house when the robber broke in, nor are any longer straddled with the duty to retreat from that home.

    5 I suppose getting that castle doctrine expanded to include your car as well remains unimportant to you.

    6 Perhaps you would like to see the permit to acquire reapplied so when you choose to sell your pistol any one whom says they would like to do so has to wait 15 days for the sale to be legal.

    No more whining about the lack of support from the CCW crowd sir, not when you call em criminal, unethical, and inferred cross dressers especially when the topic fueling it is RIFLE carry, something this site specifically forbids the discussion of and you yourself have stated you think it is bad for open carry.

    Thank you for driving the point home, I am sure it has done a lot in the effort to see changes in the laws and won a huge amount of support from those whom have taken the steps to regain the freedoms once lost you now brag about enjoying.

    I might be mouthy, I might have an ego, but I ain't a hypocrite and I can say without any doubt, I truly enjoy the freedoms I funded, worked for, rallied for, supported candidates for, and I will continue to do the same until I am done without any regard for the detractors and whiners of the world who sit and watch it happen then attack those who did it for not doing enough. There is a word for that, but I think I shall refrain.
    I am kind of pigeon towed into having a CCW as it is a requirement for open carrying in a lot of the districts to which I Open Carry in. To be honest if it was not required to have to open carry I may not even have one. I may have gone off the deep end in my words toward the work many put into acquiring some working to legalize CCW. It just seemed as if that was really the entire scope of mocarry and once it was achieved then they feel there is nothing more to fight for, and every few days some one from mocarry takes a blind pot shot at any one who is actively Open Carrying(ie me). It is only when called out that I speak on this subject of the CCW crowd for the most part being anti-OC.

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