marrero jeff
Regular Member
the topic of this article is retarded. why is it we always have to be labeled as paranoid because we want to rely on ourselves for protection?
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A girl with a gun...
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the topic of this article is retarded. why is it we always have to be labeled as paranoid because we want to rely on ourselves for protection?
Dreamer
Regular Member
If you've had to draw three times, (which would only be justifiable if you felt you were under a lethal threat) then that is three times more than ANY Ocer that I've ever heard of. If you'd been OCing, the BG would have most likely scooted on down the road looking for a softer target. You're CCing was why you had to draw...
My statement stands.
If you think that doesn't wash, then maybe the wiring on your washing machine is faulty...
MamaLiberty
Regular Member
I'm 64 years old, 5 ft. tall, and open carry an XD compact .45 all day, every day, everywhere for nearly 4 years. Before that I carried a Ruger .357m.
In the beginning, a few people asked me if I thought I could shoot someone to save my life.
I told them "yes, because I already have."
If you, or anyone would like to read the story of that encounter, look at this:
The Man I Might Have Killed http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/08/09/22/editor.htm
<snip>
A man (or anyone) who attacked me today would face a calm, confident, prepared and VERY well armed woman - any time of the day or night. I would hope that he was able to perceive his disadvantage and just go away.
Some would, and some would not.
His choice.
I’ve already made mine.
In the beginning, a few people asked me if I thought I could shoot someone to save my life.
I told them "yes, because I already have."
If you, or anyone would like to read the story of that encounter, look at this:
The Man I Might Have Killed http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/08/09/22/editor.htm
<snip>
A man (or anyone) who attacked me today would face a calm, confident, prepared and VERY well armed woman - any time of the day or night. I would hope that he was able to perceive his disadvantage and just go away.
Some would, and some would not.
His choice.
I’ve already made mine.
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ODA 226
Regular Member
Actually, I think it's pretty pro-2A for a British publication.
fozzy71
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MKEgal
Regular Member
I had to chuckle about this 'cause my lawyers, of all people, were surprised that I was armed while talking with them. (Illegal police stop & seizure. It's working itself out. Hopefully I'll have my Glock back before too much longer.)
I stood up when they came into the room, shook hands with them, & I was wearing light tan shorts with a white polo shirt, black belt, black IWB holster, black gun. Not exactly concealment.
A while later one of them says something like "if I saw someone carrying a gun, I'd be freaked out."
To which, of course, I just had to reply "do I freak you out?" (I did think about it a second first.)
"No."
"Would you be more comfortable if you had control of my gun while we're talking?"
"No..." (As he looks toward my waist, which at this point was below tabletop level.)
I didn't chuckle 'til I was alone, but it was such a great example of people
A) not seeing what's in front of them and
B) not really knowing how they'd feel about a situation 'til they're in it
And no, I don't generally offer to let other people take my gun, but I wanted to emphasize to him that I was quite reasonable, polite, calm, & absolutely no threat.
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paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
It has been verified. The person who was disarmed by the BG is a member of Wisconsin Carry. The Chairman of Wisconsin Carry has talked to the victim and vouched for him.
Adam H
Regular Member
This is exactly why I rarely OC anymore. When I first turned 21 and got my first pistol, I OC'ed almost everywhere I went. After dealing with a few people, I decided that I really didn't care to deal with the hassle that OC brings sometimes. I quit carrying until I got my CCW and now I'm back to carrying almost everywhere.
I still support the right to OC, but I believe that there is a time and place to OC and a time and place to CC. Right now, it's time for me to CC and maybe I'll start OC'ing again someday.
simmonsjoe
Regular Member
Fool
I've had to draw my weapon at least 3 three times. I've put my hand on it numerous times. I have shot and killed someone. (while CCing)
Never had to touch my weapon while OCing.
Dreamer is 100% on target here, on all points. I believe the benefits of CC are a myth. He is right to pray he never has to shoot anyone. You should pray too. It is a horrible horrible experience.
The main benefit of CC (how I usually carry) is anonymity.
There is a second, sort of warped benefit some see. Some give up the deterrence factor of OC because it reduces the chance a BG will bypass you for someone else who is helpless. That isn't usually their reasoning or intent, sadly.
OK. Well I've been carrying for 5 years.
I've had to draw my weapon at least 3 three times. I've put my hand on it numerous times. I have shot and killed someone. (while CCing)
Never had to touch my weapon while OCing.
Dreamer is 100% on target here, on all points. I believe the benefits of CC are a myth. He is right to pray he never has to shoot anyone. You should pray too. It is a horrible horrible experience.
The main benefit of CC (how I usually carry) is anonymity.
There is a second, sort of warped benefit some see. Some give up the deterrence factor of OC because it reduces the chance a BG will bypass you for someone else who is helpless. That isn't usually their reasoning or intent, sadly.
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Ed69
Regular Member
If you've had to draw three times, (which would only be justifiable if you felt you were under a lethal threat) then that is three times more than ANY Ocer that I've ever heard of. If you'd been OCing, the BG would have most likely scooted on down the road looking for a softer target. You're CCing was why you had to draw...
My statement stands.
If you think that doesn't wash, then maybe the wiring on your washing machine is faulty...
I guess you don't remember saying CC is a guarantee that I will have to shoot?On that point you are wrong boy.YOu live the way you want and so will I.I know first hand what works for me in fight,you'll figure out what works for you when that day comes.
Wiley
Regular Member
Get a grip, folks!
The OP said she could not afford to get a concealed carry permit.
If those of you are so upset that she must OC, PM her with an offer to pay for her permit. Please don't gum up the thread with a meaningless back and forth over the advantages/disadvantages of OC/CC.
HELP HER with money or advice.
The OP said she could not afford to get a concealed carry permit.
If those of you are so upset that she must OC, PM her with an offer to pay for her permit. Please don't gum up the thread with a meaningless back and forth over the advantages/disadvantages of OC/CC.
HELP HER with money or advice.
GLOCK21GB
Campaign Veteran
First, Welcome to the forum !!! & second , petite girls should OC, it sends a message to the, bigger than you male scum bags...((( don't mess with me))) with a Serpa retention holster, for the most part they are not gonna get your gun, unless you give it to them. Might I recommend either a Ruger SR9c or a Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm. both fine hand guns.
GLOCK21GB
Campaign Veteran
Very cool for your daughter ! She is pretty & the dog is cute too.
Shaman
Regular Member
Thank You, sir.