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    What cities are ignoring us, hoping we will go away?

    Just catching up on some of the threads and it seems that Taylor is not cooperating. It also seems that the Pontiac council is not doing what they need to.

    Are there any other places that are openly flaunting the fact that they are breaking the law even after being notified?

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    I think Flint is trying to ban open carry, illegally, and there is the Royal Oak thread. They want "something done".
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    What is Flint up to? I go there occasionally, and want to know what to look out for.

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    I suspect that, all across the Nation, many cities/townships/villages/counties will stall and stonewall until they see how Chicago's anti gun ordinances fare in the courts.

    Now... because of MCL 123.1102 I don't see how any municipalities in Michigan can continue to stall with changing their ordinances.... but if they do stall too long:

    An excerpt from:

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...it+of+mandamus
    mandamus


    [Latin, We comand.] A writ or order that is issued from a court of superior jurisdiction that commands an inferior tribunal, corporation, Municipal Corporation, or individual to perform, or refrain from performing, a particular act, the performance or omission of which is required by law as an obligation.


    Perhaps this could be brought to bear?


    Granted I'm not familiar with how to go about obtaining a Writ of Mandamus or even if a court would entertain such a thing. But I know there are other, much more informed, folks here who either do know... or can find out... more about it.

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    Just more wondering on my part.... If the Attorney General's Office were informed of municipalities that have illegal ordinances would the AG's office send them a letter... or something... instructing them to change said ordinances because challenging the ordinances on a case by case basis not only infringes upon the rights of... but also creates an undue burden upon... the citizens? Or do I have what the AG's Office can do wrong?
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    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    I suspect that, all across the Nation, many cities/townships/villages/counties will stall and stonewall until they see how Chicago's anti gun ordinances fare in the courts.

    Now... because of MCL 123.1102 I don't see how any municipalities in Michigan can continue to stall with changing their ordinances.... but if they do stall too long:

    An excerpt from:

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...it+of+mandamus
    mandamus


    [Latin, We comand.] A writ or order that is issued from a court of superior jurisdiction that commands an inferior tribunal, corporation, Municipal Corporation, or individual to perform, or refrain from performing, a particular act, the performance or omission of which is required by law as an obligation.


    Perhaps this could be brought to bear?


    Granted I'm not familiar with how to go about obtaining a Writ of Mandamus or even if a court would entertain such a thing. But I know there are other, much more informed, folks here who either do know... or can find out... more about it.

    Edited to add:
    Just more wondering on my part.... If the Attorney General's Office were informed of municipalities that have illegal ordinances would the AG's office send them a letter... or something... instructing them to change said ordinances because challenging the ordinances on a case by case basis not only infringes upon the rights of... but also creates an undue burden upon... the citizens? Or do I have what the AG's Office can do wrong?
    Possibly for the Writ of Mandamus.

    There are also Temporary Restraining Orders (TRO) and Injunctions, which may be best used in tandem.

    Interesting Link: http://barkingdogs.net/ducequity.shtml

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