man I have been looking hard for a while now as I know a few of you are from Kent. went to Big 5 at about 5:45 and there he was standing at the checkout counter. I asked him if he belonged to OCDO and he had no idea what that was. I told him it was great forum. he told me he carries to educate people to let them know that they can carry too. nice exchange and I hope he visits the site.