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    A good end of the world gun?

    I was thinking about a new pistol for practice shooting I can get 1000 rounds for only $30 and was wondering if any of you had any experience on any of these two pistols a VZ-52 (cz-52) or a Tokarev TT-33 in 7.62x25? I had a vz-52 but I sold it last year. Both for around $200?

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    Where can you get 1000 rds of 7.62x25 for $30?

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    i dont even have a gun in that caliber and want to know.

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    My "end of the world" gun is a New Model Convertible Blackhawk in .357. It comes with a 9mm cylinder, allowing me the choice of 3 calibers in one gun (.38/.357/9mm), all of them known to be fairly lethal. Also, being a SA revolver, it has fewer moving parts to wear out or break. All around, I think it's my best choice for the zombie apocalypse.
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    1K for $30? So it's about the same as the budget .22LR? I think 100 for $30 is probably closer to reality.

    My end-o-the-world gun is a Glock 19 w/nightsights and maritime spring cups. I've got tons of 15rd mags and a few of the 33rd G18 mags to go with it. And its a GLOCK, so it's as close to maintanence-free as I'm going to get in an autoloader. 9mm is pretty easy to find, too.

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    cz/vz are stronger than the tokarev-33

    wondering if any of you had any experience on any of these two pistols a VZ-52 (cz-52) or a Tokarev TT-33 in 7.62x25? I had a vz-52 but I sold it last year.

    wonder why you request our experiance, if youve already owned one?
    as an aside,, ask michigander how he feels about the one he had?
    he dropped it, and it shot him in the leg.
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    hence... end of the world

    "wonder why you request our experiance, if youve already owned one?
    as an aside,, ask michigander how he feels about the one he had?
    he dropped it, and it shot him in the leg."

    I guess if you drop it.... it might be the end of the world for you....

    Now that is funny. Well funny as in "so long it's not you" type of funny
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    I'll take a scoped Ruger 10/22... I can carry 10,000 rounds in a backpack, and hit anything I want to out to 150 m.

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    Part of my survival kit.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    I'll take a scoped Ruger 10/22... I can carry 10,000 rounds in a backpack, and hit anything I want to out to 150 m.
    +1

    This would be my choice too. In an EOW scenario survival would be the biggest consideration. Evading trouble will be paramount, not going out and looking for it. The .22lr is more than capable of providing meat and can also be effective in last ditch defense. If it truly is the end of the world as we know it (TEOTWAKI) I seriously doubt that it will matter what you carry with you so you might as well carry something light and useful. Remember, the "Road Warrior" just carried a sawed off 12ga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal_Monkey View Post
    That is the smartest thing I have heard on this forum!
    +1

    never underestimate the power of the .22LR

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy4count View Post
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    never underestimate the power of the .22LR
    The .22LR is a good little round IMO. People downplay it as a self-defense round--with low recoil, you can get a handful of rounds on target quick.
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    The Cz 52 is a lot of fun belching fire on a range, but is not the safest of guns.

    Old ammo for it is often very cheap, but can be corrosive.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Another offering for an "EOW" rifle is the AR-7

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-7

    Everything "folds" up into the stock for a somewhat waterproof carry. Lightweight, compact, and fairly inexpensive. Last one I looked at had extra room in the stock for a baggie with ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    I'll take a scoped Ruger 10/22... I can carry 10,000 rounds in a backpack, and hit anything I want to out to 150 m.
    And I will raise you one of these...


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    The AR7's are a joke jn my opinion.
    I've had two and the trigger is horrible, the barrel nut loosens as you shoot it, it is grossly inaccurate and the mags have feeding problems.

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    A better weapon than the AR7 is the M6 scout in 22 hornet over .410. Mine is in stainless steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David.Car View Post
    And I will raise you one of these...
    ive got four, one for my 10/22, one for my mkIII and two for my glock 21. with two more on the way. one for my glock 22 with a 9mm conversion barrel and one for my ar-15. best thing in the world for shooters is suppressing it. sorry if the files are too large.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeper1 View Post
    The AR7's are a joke jn my opinion.
    I've had two and the trigger is horrible, the barrel nut loosens as you shoot it, it is grossly inaccurate and the mags have feeding problems.
    yep. agreed! I have one. keep it as my "truck gun". neat idea, very poorly executed. while there have been several different manufacturers of the gun, the Henry Repeating Arms model seems to be the best. I believe the one I have is made by Century? Arms. trigger is....well, very poor, accuracy is little to none, and the action is very sloppy, to the point it causes issues with cycling.
    Sure, a survival gun...but you probably won't be surviving very long if you are depending on it for self defense. it'd be a good little rabbit or squirrel gun though!

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    Ak-47

    Accept no substitutes

    Preferably with drum mag.

    I live on an island. SHTF, trying to leave is a great way to get killed. I plan to hunker down, stop trimming the blackberries, & live off the natural smorgasbord that wanders thru my yard every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_fatstyles View Post
    ive got four, one for my 10/22, one for my mkIII and two for my glock 21. with two more on the way. one for my glock 22 with a 9mm conversion barrel and one for my ar-15. best thing in the world for shooters is suppressing it. sorry if the files are too large.
    Geez, is that a tax stamp for each one of those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsx1138 View Post
    Geez, is that a tax stamp for each one of those?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeper1 View Post
    Where can you get 1000 rds of 7.62x25 for $30?
    Yea. No kidding. J&G Sales' latest flyer has Yugo 7.62x25 for $99.75 per 1050 rounds. That's pretty cheap lately. $30 is ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy4count View Post
    +1

    never underestimate the power of the .22LR
    Good point.

    Conversely, never overestimate the power of the .22LR.

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    ideal EOWG (End Of World Gun) the Ma Duece:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...2REI_2.jpg.JPG


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