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    Open carry on a motorcycle!

    Hello, I'm new here!

    I have been open carrying on my motorcycle--Glock 19, cheap fobus paddle holster 3 o'clock position. Mostly started doing it because I realized that with my gear on, it would be impossible to smoothly draw my LCP from my front pocket.

    Well anyways, I have noticed that other motorists now give me all the space I could ever want on the road. Cars will stop 3 car lengths away--its wonderful!

    Anybody else ride while OC'ing?

    -Pig

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    I carry a little here in NC while riding, but haven't noticed that effect. Will be doing it a little more tomorrow, and hope to see that effect. It would be nice if they gave us that space regardless. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like they think we need less space than they would give any other automobile. (Keep in mind this is w/o the firearm, I haven't ridden much yet while OC.)

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    Hello.

    Quote Originally Posted by Armored_Pig View Post
    Well anyways, I have noticed that other motorists now give me all the space I could ever want on the road. Cars will stop 3 car lengths away--its wonderful!
    Don't let that fool you. You are still mostly invisible to cagers and they're still a motorcyclists worst enemy. When you least expect it, OC or not, one will either:

    1. Pull into the road in front of you;
    2. Make a left turn from the oncoming lane in front of you;
    3. Rear end you at a stop-light;
    4. Rear end you in highway traffic jams; or
    5. Sideswipe you on a multi-lane highway.

    Also, I have found that our perception of peoples' reactions to OC are sometimes just in our heads. The mind is a funny thing...

    It's also highly unlikely that you'll believe me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Armored_Pig View Post
    Anybody else ride while OC'ing?

    -Pig
    Yes. I ride from time to time, but not as much this year. There was talk on this forum about an OC ride in Virginia. I haven't seen the thread active for a while, I don't know if it was ever done or if it just needs someone who's really motivated to organize it. I'm sure you can find it if you search.

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    I open carry whenever I ride. If the lady is on back her leg blocks view of the firearm a bit but it's always there. I have not noticed any response myself but I am usually paying attention to the road, etc when riding.

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    I Do...In the Summer

    I Open Carry in the summer as it is too difficult to conceal. I have not noticed anyone or any driver acting differently. LEO's have passed me in their patrol cars on my strong side; no response.

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    I OC all the time on my Bike, except to and from work since I am prohibited from having a firearm at work (please work on the parking lot law again). People just as close as ever even though I am carrying and I standout, large GSL and VCDL stickers on the rear of the saddlebags and a 45 on the right hip. If I get any reaction form other motorist it's usually a thumbs up.




    I the one that was trying to set up a Virginia Motorcycle OC ride, I stopped after a huge lack of interest (only 12 riders responded to the poll) and no agreement on how to meet, how far to ride or where to ride.
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    I OC almost always when I ride my Goldwing. Only twice have I had a visible reaction, and only one of those times could I be certain it was my sidearm. We were in heavy traffic, and a bus driver was trying to change lanes, coming in from my right (strong side) and behind me. He looked down at the gun, then at me, smiled and nodded.

    The second time I was traveling at about 60 mph when someone passed me, honking and waving. I know she couldn't see my gun, so I expect it was either the 2AMEND license plate or the fact a woman was riding a Goldwing.

    Even though spousal unit and I both ride touring bikes, and take up as much room in traffic as a car (in traffic, of course, we make an effort to stay close together), we have people deliberately cutting us off or worse. Bad enough when it's unintentional, but we've had more than one instance of deliberate "I'm more important than you, get out of my way" behavior. Guess that's due to the DC proximity.

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    spousal unit. interesting phrase, mine i have always referred to as; my government.

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    Virginiastuck's theory seems more and more likely

    I think it might be all in my head!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armored_Pig View Post
    Hello, I'm new here!

    I have been open carrying on my motorcycle--Glock 19, cheap fobus paddle holster 3 o'clock position. Mostly started doing it because I realized that with my gear on, it would be impossible to smoothly draw my LCP from my front pocket.

    Well anyways, I have noticed that other motorists now give me all the space I could ever want on the road. Cars will stop 3 car lengths away--its wonderful!

    Anybody else ride while OC'ing?

    -Pig
    Prehaps a BFR get you you a little more room.

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    Yes.

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    I OC and ride quite often. No problems thus far. Been around quite a few LEOs and no comments except for one friendly wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t33j View Post
    Yes.

    I so want to try this with my AR-15 across my back.
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    MOVE uh GIT OUT THE WAY

    Quote Originally Posted by t33j View Post
    Yes.

    Get out the way now, git out the way. Move bitch, I said get out the way get out the way.

    I do a hundred on the highway. Do the speedlimit bitch, you better get the hell out of my way.
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    TJ is that you?

    btw is that you on the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simmonsjoe View Post
    btw is that you on the bike?
    No, but I really do want to do that some day. I have neither an AK nor a bike.

    ...and I often think about the uncensored version of that song while I'm driving up here in NoVA lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by streetdoc View Post
    I am prohibited from having a firearm at work (please work on the parking lot law again).
    Not to steer too OT, but I am curious on this. What is the parking lot law? I can only assume your place of work does not allow weapons. In such a case, are you not allowed to stow your arm in your vehicle prior to entering your business?

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by sol View Post
    Not to steer too OT, but I am curious on this. What is the parking lot law? I can only assume your place of work does not allow weapons. In such a case, are you not allowed to stow your arm in your vehicle prior to entering your business?
    Not presently. If the owner of the building is your boss and owns the fee simple of the property under the parking lot, too, then they can forbid weapons on their property.

    My company has a similar "policy" but they do not own the parking lot, they only lease the building and the parking lot belongs to the office complex/management company. We do not have exclusive ingress/egress privilege.

    Therefor, they cannot lawfully prevent me from stowing a weapon in my vehicle.

    One of the laws I will be strongly advocating this coming session is "parking lot carry" which will effectively prohibit private businesses from exercising policy regarding the private vehicles (4th Amendment) of their employees which, in many instances, disarms them not only at their places of business (Gun Free Zones) but also from the time they exit their homes to the time they return.

    I hope Philip and the VDCL group will stand firm on this one as it affects the greatest number of carriers and infringes unjustly on their right to self-defense by corporate policy/proxy.

    BTW, I OC all the time on my Honda Shadow Spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sol View Post
    Not to steer too OT, but I am curious on this. What is the parking lot law? I can only assume your place of work does not allow weapons. In such a case, are you not allowed to stow your arm in your vehicle prior to entering your business?

    Cheers,
    I work for Fairfax County Government (they don't like guns). We were working last year on getting a parking lot bill passed so that most employers, business and housing complexes could not prevent you from keeping a firearm in your vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sol View Post
    Not to steer too OT, but I am curious on this. What is the parking lot law? I can only assume your place of work does not allow weapons. In such a case, are you not allowed to stow your arm in your vehicle prior to entering your business?

    Cheers,
    That's one of the better bills considered last year. Hopefully, it will be back again this time around.
    Philip, I hope you're taking notes.

    It's not an issue with me but is for 90% of the gun owners.
    My son works for a Defense Contractor that ignored it for a long time but thanks to an employee who just had to brag, made it clear that guns were NOT allowed.

    Then the idiot came here and fumed about it. I haven't seen him here for a while. Maybe he went back North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I haven't seen him here for a while. Maybe he went back North.
    We can always hope.
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    Riding around Friday evening with Brooke:


    Then road out to Paeonian Springs for OC Roadside BBQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t33j View Post
    Yes.

    LOL, I was waiting to see how long it took for someone to post this classic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    Not presently. If the owner of the building is your boss and owns the fee simple of the property under the parking lot, too, then they can forbid weapons on their property.

    My company has a similar "policy" but they do not own the parking lot, they only lease the building and the parking lot belongs to the office complex/management company. We do not have exclusive ingress/egress privilege.

    Therefor, they cannot lawfully prevent me from stowing a weapon in my vehicle.

    One of the laws I will be strongly advocating this coming session is "parking lot carry" which will effectively prohibit private businesses from exercising policy regarding the private vehicles (4th Amendment) of their employees which, in many instances, disarms them not only at their places of business (Gun Free Zones) but also from the time they exit their homes to the time they return.

    I hope Philip and the VDCL group will stand firm on this one as it affects the greatest number of carriers and infringes unjustly on their right to self-defense by corporate policy/proxy.

    BTW, I OC all the time on my Honda Shadow Spirit.

    To top off taking your carry rights away in areas other than the parking lot it's a complete "DOES NOTHING TO STOP CRIME" law. It would seem to me to be unconstitutional for any law to restrict your freedoms if the law is in reality non-effectual. Of course the parking lot is private property so I am really torn... The real solution might be to enact laws that make private businesses who restrict the public or employees from their basic rights of self defense be liable for any harm done to them, IE, they are fully responsible for your complete safety. There really is a genuine conflict of rights here which of course cannot be true as rights cannot conflict. There has to be a solution....

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    The whole "rifle slung on back riding down the highway" set up, it is legal right? I think there are a few city/counties where you can't have a loaded rifle in your vehicle (I believe Newport News is one). Might have to try it one day when I go to the gun club.

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