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The next big thing for Crowd Control in the US...

Dreamer

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Besides, this whole post is bull$h!t. The govt' isn't going to develop and deploy devices like these, that do no permanent damage, when they have tear gas, rubber bullets, beanbag guns, and tasers for domestic issues.


You're right... I guess those LRADs that the press reported being used at the Pittsburgh G20, and in Toronto, and Madrid, and Montreal were just REALLY big Walkmans perched on top of those Hummers...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAwmX5O-FAE&feature=player_embedded


Yeah, they'd NEVER pull them from military service and re-deploy them to Civilian Law Enforcement through the DOJ's Technology Transfer Program. They'd NEVER do that...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/l...nic-cannon-debuts-in-u-s-at-g20-pro/19174241/

http://twincities.indymedia.org/2010/mar/update-g20-appeal-win-and-lrad-experts-pittsburgh

http://www.securityprousa.com/loraacde.html

http://gizmodo.com/5369190/lrad-sound-cannon-used-on-pittsburgh-g20-protesters
 
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PrayingForWar

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You're right... I guess those LRADs that the press reported being used at the Pittsburgh G20, and in Toronto, and Madrid, and Montreal were just REALLY big Walkmans perched on top of those Hummers...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAwmX5O-FAE&feature=player_embedded


Yeah, they'd NEVER pull them from military service and re-deploy them to Civilian Law Enforcement through the DOJ's Technology Transfer Program. They'd NEVER do that...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/l...nic-cannon-debuts-in-u-s-at-g20-pro/19174241/

http://twincities.indymedia.org/2010/mar/update-g20-appeal-win-and-lrad-experts-pittsburgh

http://www.securityprousa.com/loraacde.html

http://gizmodo.com/5369190/lrad-sound-cannon-used-on-pittsburgh-g20-protesters

I stand corrected. Seems to me like a huge waste of resources when they have adequate means available.

Unruly mobs of communists (They like to be called anarchists) throwing rocks and bottles, setting police cars on fire, turning over cars, smashing windows, looting, and otherwise destroying property should probably be shot with something in a .30 caliber frangible round.

I don't care what they do in Madrid, Montreal ot Toronto. If Americans want to travel there and raise hell, they can suffer whatever consequence.

Further the author of the Pittsburg article "was in Pittsburgh again to deal with my appeal on my summary offense conviction of “disorderly conduct”. So I question his objectivity and credibility. I don't personally care if the police use lethal force on violent mobs of communists, I think LRAD is being too nice. These idiots have destroyed so many millions of dollars of other people's property, and gotten away with it.

Of course I'm told by Captain Bull$hit (Alex Jones) that these "anarchists" are CIA agents, and used to give the police cause to become "jackboots". This is wrong. Liberals in positions of authority that refuse to punish acts of violence and destruction by leftist rabble are just as much at fault as the mindless little commies themselves.

So here's an idea, you don't want to be exposed to microwaves and painful soundwaves? Stay away from unruly mobs. I have yet to hear of a single arrest of anyone protesting illegal immigration, only those who oppose the border. I've not yet heard of an arrest at a TEA party rally, let alone windows smashed, looting, or police cars on fire. There was also no looting, burning, or rocks thrown at cops at any anti-obozo care rallies either.

See a pattern here? Some people can protest gov't without incident (or results), while some people cannot protest gov't without an incident (or result).
 
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Unruly mobs of communists (They like to be called anarchists) throwing rocks and bottles, setting police cars on fire, turning over cars, smashing windows, looting, and otherwise destroying property should probably be shot with something in a .30 caliber frangible round.


You will stand corrected again, because of this naive statement...

Although there ARE mobs of loud, obnoxious, black-clad "anarchists" (that are neither REAL anarchists NOR Communists, but rather are mostly just bored suburban teen and 20-something wannabees), the MAJORITY of the people assaulting cops, throwing bricks, and setting things on fire ARE, in fact, police officers acting in the capacity of Agent Provocateurs...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/g20-policing-agent-provacateurs

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

http://boingboing.net/2010/06/28/canadian-cops-histor.html


We know the FBI did this in the 50's with the Civil Rights movement, and again in the '60s with the hippies and anti-war demonstrators under COINTELPRO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm

If anyone thinks for ONE SECOND that there isn't currently a COINTELPRO-type program, only even more insidious, sophisticated, and scientifically designed, then they are either mentally defective or they are clinically delusional.

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/cointelpro.html


Cass Sunnstein has written papers published at Harvard saying that the Government should infiltrate, instigate, and discredit the entire alternative media and all groups who protest any program the government wants to implement.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/15/sunstein

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arthur-goldwag/cass-sunsteins-thought-po_b_453562.html


Its just a matter of time before these black-clad, masked undercover thugs start showing up at 2A Rallies, "Restore the Constitution" events, and OpenCarry dinners and raising hell to make us look like some sort of violent nutjobs. And I guarantee that when this happens, if you tackle a few of these black-clad, masked wackos and rifle through their pockets, you'll find "credentials".

Just like Toronto. Just like Montebello. Just like Pittsburgh. Just like Madrid. Just like London. Just like Selma. Just like Berkeley. Just like the Gulf of Tonkin. Just like the Lusitania. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...

Wake up, bro. The "enemy" isn't who you think he is...
 
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Tazman2

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Unruly mobs of communists (They like to be called anarchists) throwing rocks and bottles, setting police cars on fire, turning over cars, smashing windows, looting, and otherwise destroying property should probably be shot with something in a .30 caliber frangible round.

I don't care what they do in Madrid, Montreal ot Toronto. If Americans want to travel there and raise hell, they can suffer whatever consequence.

Or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAfzUOx53Rg&feature=related
 

PrayingForWar

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Let me get this straight

You will stand corrected again, because of this naive statement...

Although there ARE mobs of loud, obnoxious, black-clad "anarchists" (that are neither REAL anarchists NOR Communists, but rather are mostly just bored suburban teen and 20-something wannabees), the MAJORITY of the people assaulting cops, throwing bricks, and setting things on fire ARE, in fact, police officers acting in the capacity of Agent Provocateurs...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/g20-policing-agent-provacateurs

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

http://boingboing.net/2010/06/28/canadian-cops-histor.html


We know the FBI did this in the 50's with the Civil Rights movement, and again in the '60s with the hippies and anti-war demonstrators under COINTELPRO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm

If anyone thinks for ONE SECOND that there isn't currently a COINTELPRO-type program, only even more insidious, sophisticated, and scientifically designed, then they are either mentally defective or they are clinically delusional.

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/cointelpro.html


Cass Sunnstein has written papers published at Harvard saying that the Government should infiltrate, instigate, and discredit the entire alternative media and all groups who protest any program the government wants to implement.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/15/sunstein

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arthur-goldwag/cass-sunsteins-thought-po_b_453562.html


Its just a matter of time before these black-clad, masked undercover thugs start showing up at 2A Rallies, "Restore the Constitution" events, and OpenCarry dinners and raising hell to make us look like some sort of violent nutjobs. And I guarantee that when this happens, if you tackle a few of these black-clad, masked wackos and rifle through their pockets, you'll find "credentials".

Just like Toronto. Just like Montebello. Just like Pittsburgh. Just like Madrid. Just like London. Just like Selma. Just like Berkeley. Just like the Gulf of Tonkin. Just like the Lusitania. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...

Wake up, bro. The "enemy" isn't who you think he is...

OK, tell me how it makes sense for clowns like Cass Sunnstein, a far left insane moonbat, to "infiltrate, instigate, and discredit" other far left moonbats?

The bottom line is, when I see "infiltrators" at events I participate in doing nefarious things, they've ALWAYS been SEIU thugs or liberal douche bags. Not cops. You can't incite violence in a crowd that isn't inclined to engage in it in the first place. I'm not convinced that these local police "infiltrators" antagonized some "bored suburban teen and 20-something wannabees" to do something they wouldn't ordinarily do. There's also a plausible argument for police dressing up as pinko extremists, in order to identify people committing criminal acts. I don't buy the union thug bull$hit about the cops themselves being the ones who started it. I think the union thugs recognized that the police "infiltrators" were there to get intel, and accused them of being ringleaders. There's always two sides to a story, and I seldom believe anything leftist sociopaths have to say.

I'll tell you what though, should some "agent provocateurs" show up at any rally I would attend. They would be restrained by the crowd, until police arrived. When that happens, I'll give you credibility. Regardless, like I said, our side is not inclined to violence, pinko freaks are.

I think it's you who needs to wake up. You're living in a nightmare created by people who want you to be marginalized, and want you led astray and disenfranchised. You and I DO HAVE the same enemy. I suspect people leading you work for them. I was led by them myself for a while, and as soon as I started asking questions I became a "misinformation agent" and ostracized. It's funny how groupthink works. Everyone can see the same thing, and once someone else voices a different perspective than that which the leadership endorses, that person becomes persona non grata. Try it, you'll see.

One more thing Dreamer, these "bored suburban teen and 20-something wannabees" you speak of. While they rail against Globalization, are they doing it against the marxist agenda promoted by some of the elite, or against capitaism? Do these "bored suburban teen and 20-something wannabees" promote gun rights, private property rights, a free market economy, or any sort of Judeo-Christian values, or do they promote an agenda that would dissolve these things? Marx said "workers of the world unite", in essence calling for a single world collectivist state. Aren't these same "anti globalist" douchebags pushing for the same thing?
 
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