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    Got flagged by a kid at the range today...

    I was at the Dominion range today to do a shooting lesson for a client. It was his first time there so we were talking about range safety. We were upstairs by the viewing window looking down at the range. While talking, I glanced down at the range and saw an older gentleman hand a silver compact semi-auto to a boy about 12 years old. The boy fired a few rounds, and I glanced away. I looked back and the kid had spun about 160 degrees and had the gun casually aimed right at me. As I was saying "oh crap!" to myself, the older gentleman yelled something and grabbed the kid and spun him back towards the downrange area.

    I'm not sure who had a bigger "oh crap" moment...me, the older gentleman, or the kid. My client turned and said "yeah, I see what you mean now about safety at the range!".

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    Thats scary.
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    Might have to start wearing my vest to the range :/
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    Wow! Glad everyone is ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    We were upstairs by the viewing window looking down at the range.
    Time to replace it with bullet resistant glass

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    Quote Originally Posted by nova View Post
    Time to replace it with bullet resistant glass
    It may be, and probably already is, but I wasn't in the mood to test it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    It may be, and probably already is, but I wasn't in the mood to test it!
    Yes, it's bullet-resistant acrylic. But there's no need to test either the window or the public restroom facilities.

    Bad on you, Jim for not noticing right away that you and your customer were being flagged. Bad on the older gentleman for not keeping his attention on the young shooter.

    Glad everyone came away with a better understanding of how to behave.

    stay safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    I was at the Dominion range today to do a shooting lesson for a client. It was his first time there so we were talking about range safety. We were upstairs by the viewing window looking down at the range. While talking, I glanced down at the range and saw an older gentleman hand a silver compact semi-auto to a boy about 12 years old. The boy fired a few rounds, and I glanced away. I looked back and the kid had spun about 160 degrees and had the gun casually aimed right at me. As I was saying "oh crap!" to myself, the older gentleman yelled something and grabbed the kid and spun him back towards the downrange area.

    I'm not sure who had a bigger "oh crap" moment...me, the older gentleman, or the kid. My client turned and said "yeah, I see what you mean now about safety at the range!".

    Sounds like you were meant to have a practicum with your student.

    ;-))

    Glad it wasn't more than just an object lesson!!

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    I went on Saturday. Went as soon as they opened... avoided most of the heat and all of the bozos.

    Glad it wasn't anything more than it being pointed at you!

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    I almost got hit in the head/face multiple times at the Chantilly gun show in April this year by the muzzle of a rifle. I was signing up to join VCDL and some guy came by at the same time (stayed for like 10 minutes) with his rifle slung on his shoulder. He had no muzzle awareness whatsoever. I almost got hit like 5 separate times, and the guy who was signing me up almost got hit too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Bad on you, Jim for not noticing right away that you and your customer were being flagged.
    Oh I noticed right away, or as quick as could be noticed. I was just engaged in conversation and wasn't expecting to get flagged from my perch on high. I love to watch folks from there and diagnose their shooting difficulties (quietly, to myself). Its a nice spot to view whether or not its safe to descend the stairs to the range.

    The older gentleman seemed to have a good handle on correcting the issue quick enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karolynrgalarza View Post
    I almost got hit in the head/face multiple times at the Chantilly gun show in April this year by the muzzle of a rifle. I was signing up to join VCDL and some guy came by at the same time (stayed for like 10 minutes) with his rifle slung on his shoulder. He had no muzzle awareness whatsoever. I almost got hit like 5 separate times, and the guy who was signing me up almost got hit too.

    don't worry, that's what the gun show's "no loaded firearms" policy is for!

    [/sarcasm]

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    I had something similar to this happen to me around five or six years ago. I was at the outdoor range where I am a member on lane six. It was a light day, not too many people on the range, however there were two range officers on duty. One of them was new to me and he had set up on lane eight to shoot his .35 Remington lever action rifle when the other officer was monitoring the range. At one point, I was firing free hand from a standing position and caught something out of my right peripheral vision. As I turned my head more to the right, I saw this "range master" sitting on his seat, examining the breach of his rifle, with the muzzle pointing at my head. I shouted at him and almost immediately the other officer saw it and also said something to him. He has never been back to the range when I have been there, so I suspect his days were numbered there.
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    when I was at the national forest range near Blacksburg the range was called cold, people were downrange checking targets. I then start hearing the "click" of a gun being dry fired. I look over and see someone dry firing while pointing it downrange where people were checking targets.

    I corrected him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nova View Post
    I corrected him.
    He should have been corrected with a boot in the arse followed by ejection from the range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    He should have been corrected with a boot in the arse followed by ejection from the range.
    Mark the date! I actually have to agree with wylde on this one!

    I would have suggested the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nova View Post
    don't worry, that's what the gun show's "no loaded firearms" policy is for!

    [/sarcasm]
    Yep, and we all know how effective those signs are....

    Here's the latest one off the wire, from Oklahoma City - http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-...,5288265.story

    It takes all of 3 seconds to check a gun....sad.
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    Officials at the gun show say vendors are supposed to make sure all their firearms are not loaded and that cable ties are used to secure the weapon so they cannot be fired.
    Somebody's got a case of the "s'posed-ta"s.

    Revoke the privilege and ban the vendor from future shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nova View Post
    don't worry, that's what the gun show's "no loaded firearms" policy is for!

    [/sarcasm]
    Still, getting knocked in the face/head by a chunk of metal aint pleasant either. Could of put an eye out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karolynrgalarza View Post
    Still, getting knocked in the face/head by a chunk of metal aint pleasant either. Could of put an eye out.
    Can't let that quote go by without this classic clip!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-89yiueWNGo
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