kwikrnu
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Why not post a sign telling everyone that hurting people isn't nice and not allowed at Walmart. Maybe cities with high crime rates can post the same at their city limits.
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Woman held hostage and stabbed repeatedly at York County Walmart
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t33j
Regular Member
I do. Sometimes they replace the nose pads on my glasses for free.
MSC 45ACP
Regular Member
The Optometry center in this walmart is WIDE OPEN and visible to anyone walking by. After you pay for your stuff at the register, you will pass by it on your way to the door... Depending on which door you entered, you have a 50/50 chance of passing it.
I wonder what the legal aftermath would be for an OCer (or CCer) if they had "taken the shot" and ended this scumbag's criminal career?
Arrest?
Certainly detainment and definite loss of their firearm for an INdefinite period of time.
Most likely a civil suit brought by the aforementioned scumbag's offspring and/or babymommas... Maybe even from the one whose life you just saved.
THESE are the questions not many of us think of often. I admit I don't. I just think of myself as a better-than-average marksman willing to save the lives of others if necessary, willing to put his own life in jeopardy to do so.
When you're confronted with one of these adreneline-pumping situations, you react by pure instinct and training. You won't hesitate to act in a "fight or flight" situation. You may soil or wet your pants (I wet mine, my partner soiled his). Hopefully, you'll live to tell the tale and won't be in jail.
I wonder what the legal aftermath would be for an OCer (or CCer) if they had "taken the shot" and ended this scumbag's criminal career?
Arrest?
Certainly detainment and definite loss of their firearm for an INdefinite period of time.
Most likely a civil suit brought by the aforementioned scumbag's offspring and/or babymommas... Maybe even from the one whose life you just saved.
THESE are the questions not many of us think of often. I admit I don't. I just think of myself as a better-than-average marksman willing to save the lives of others if necessary, willing to put his own life in jeopardy to do so.
When you're confronted with one of these adreneline-pumping situations, you react by pure instinct and training. You won't hesitate to act in a "fight or flight" situation. You may soil or wet your pants (I wet mine, my partner soiled his). Hopefully, you'll live to tell the tale and won't be in jail.
Old Virginia Joe
Regular Member
Don't you all know, "If knives are outlawed, only outlaws will have knives!"
45acpForMe
Newbie
Who needs a gun at Walmart?!!!!
I shop at that walmart weekly and walk by the vision center each time. My daughter got her glasses there. I was in Florida when I got a text that there was a hostage situation in the Walmart. I turned to my daughter (who got the text from her friend checking on her to not be at walmart) and said, so why do I carry a gun when I shop at walmart? She answered correctly, because sh1t like this happens!
The thing that erks me a bit is that while OC-ing at this very Walmart I have TWICE overheard people (usually older women) say loud enough for me to hear, "Why do you need a gun at Walmart!".
Part of me wanted to be there (anger) and part of me was glad my family was no where near. The story came to us in bits and pieces via my daughters friends so it was a topic for discussion for the day. My youngest said that she always wanted me to carry when we went there, which I told her I would but also tried to calm her worry down that things like this don't happen often but this is exactly why we go prepared.
I shop at that walmart weekly and walk by the vision center each time. My daughter got her glasses there. I was in Florida when I got a text that there was a hostage situation in the Walmart. I turned to my daughter (who got the text from her friend checking on her to not be at walmart) and said, so why do I carry a gun when I shop at walmart? She answered correctly, because sh1t like this happens!
The thing that erks me a bit is that while OC-ing at this very Walmart I have TWICE overheard people (usually older women) say loud enough for me to hear, "Why do you need a gun at Walmart!".
Part of me wanted to be there (anger) and part of me was glad my family was no where near. The story came to us in bits and pieces via my daughters friends so it was a topic for discussion for the day. My youngest said that she always wanted me to carry when we went there, which I told her I would but also tried to calm her worry down that things like this don't happen often but this is exactly why we go prepared.
wylde007
Regular Member
Things like this never happen at places like Wal-Mart... until they do.
Just remember... there had never been a mass shooting by a jilted lover at Virginia Tech until there was one. There was never a NOVA sniper until there was one.
The worst of it is that you and I lack the clairvoyance to divine when and where these terrible events will take place. And, like the spare tire/fire extinguisher analogy holds - we must be prepared for them to happen at any time... and pray that we have prepared enough and in a manner commensurate to the magnitude of response that is necessitated by such an event.
RedKnightt
Regular Member
You've had some clashes with other folks on this forum, and until this statement I've been willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. What's wrong with customers being scared of a man brandishing a knife and hurting a woman so badly it puts her in critical condition at the local hospital? What's wrong with children being scared and crying when adults are scared, police are running in with drawn weapons and shouting, and I suspect, the victim of this attack likely screaming in pain loud enough for anyone in the store to hear?
"Sometimes, fear is the appropriate response." There was no herd-like stampeding, there was some "panic, chaos, and confusion" as to be expected. Sorry everyone is not a Unit-trained operator like yourself.
These aren't "sheeple" you jackass, they're your friends and neighbors. If you need to make yourself feel better by putting them down, please go elsewhere.
MSC 45ACP
Regular Member
Peter is right... RK shoots and SCORES!!!
45acpForMe
Newbie
not hurting the OC cause
Now with this incident freshly in the minds of the employees and local shoppers, what is your opinion on carrying there now? Would OC-ing at Walmart today help or hurt the OC cause?
I have the option to CC. If I OC and the management goes nuts that would hurt us in the long run. I figure a week or two would be my opinion but am curious of others that have the pay4perks permit.
Now with this incident freshly in the minds of the employees and local shoppers, what is your opinion on carrying there now? Would OC-ing at Walmart today help or hurt the OC cause?
I have the option to CC. If I OC and the management goes nuts that would hurt us in the long run. I figure a week or two would be my opinion but am curious of others that have the pay4perks permit.
TFred
Regular Member
I don't think it changes anything, but it does "turn up the volume".
The antis who see an open carrier will assume it is another present or eventual criminal and be all that much more afraid. The RKBA supporter will recall the recent incident, and be glad that there is someone around who might be able to help if it ever happens again.
I don't see any great change of position, but perhaps a temporary time of enhanced awareness.
JMHO,
TFred
t33j
Regular Member
Beat you to it. Last night around 11:30 to look for .45 and a some other things.
45acpForMe
Newbie
So did you use your new P4P or OC? No one went running out of there screaming did they?
t33j
Regular Member
My P4P has been unused and will remain so for the near future. The vision center looked like it always does... as if nothing ever happened.
I got many more looks at Yorktown last night, but I was attracting attention by hoping over walls and rocks and such.
I got many more looks at Yorktown last night, but I was attracting attention by hoping over walls and rocks and such.
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Who was looking, tourists or locals?
zoom6zoom
Regular Member
Next time someone asks, you can just point at the stains in the carpet.
t33j
Regular Member
Difficult to say; it wasn't obvious by appearances only. Walking up I thought that it'd be mostly tourists in attendance but I saw quite a few people that I knew.
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Neplusultra
Regular Member
Having banned guns and swords in Great Brittain said:
I have friends that are antique gun collectors (about all you can get there) and they tell me about the nightmare they have to go through just to get a matchlock rifle.
I have a few friends in Australia and most of them hid most of their guns rather than turn them in.
An interesting bit of trivia. The man who Crocodile Dundee was modeled after, was killed in a shootout with police when they came for his guns.