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OC during labor day?

oohrahboy

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hey guys just wondering if anyone knows if i can oc while walking across the mighty mac on labor day, this will be my 15th year walking, and i have never seen anyone oc while walking, just wondered if anyone has any ideas. also the campground we stay at sells alcohol in there store, because of this do i need written permission or a cpl to open carry on the camp grounds, outside of the store.
 

autosurgeon

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Bridge walk should be fine.

Campground should be fine other than the fact it is private property. Stay out of the store with your gun unless you have a CPL or written permission.

Where did that section of law on premises go... hmm Dr Todd you posted it... help!
 

stainless1911

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750.234d Possession of firearm on certain premises prohibited; applicability; violation as misdemeanor; penalty.
Sec. 234d.
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
(a) A depository financial institution or a subsidiary or affiliate of a depository financial institution.
(b) A church or other house of religious worship.
(c) A court.
(d) A theatre.
(e) A sports arena.
(f) A day care center.
(g) A hospital.
(h) An establishment licensed under the Michigan liquor control act, Act No. 8 of the Public Acts of the Extra Session of 1933, being sections 436.1 to 436.58 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.
(2) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(a) A person who owns, or is employed by or contracted by, an entity described in subsection (1) if the possession of that firearm is to provide security services for that entity.
(b) A peace officer.
(c) A person licensed by this state or another state to carry a concealed weapon.
(d) A person who possesses a firearm on the premises of an entity described in subsection (1) if that possession is with the permission of the owner or an agent of the owner of that entity.
(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both.
 

autosurgeon

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I understand what you are saying Stainless... but when I find the right section of code you will see as I did that premises for a licensed establishment does NOT include the parking lot.

Which would also mean the campground would be ok as well... Arg so many pages of code.
 
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stainless1911

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Hahahaha, thats been my whole problem learning gun laws, my head turns to goo after a bit. Thats also why sometimes I say things I say about those laws. Some people really don't like me because of it, and it really buggs me, but I guess not everyone will like everyone else.
 

DrTodd

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Hahahaha, thats been my whole problem learning gun laws, my head turns to goo after a bit. Thats also why sometimes I say things I say about those laws. Some people really don't like me because of it, and it really buggs me, but I guess not everyone will like everyone else.
Is this it:

"Licensed premises" means any portion of a building, structure, room,
or enclosure on real estate that is owned, leased, used, controlled, or
operated by a licensee in the conduct of the business at the location for
which the licensee is licensed by the commission, except when otherwise
specified by commission rule or written commission order.

http://www.state.mi.us/orr/emi/admincode.asp?AdminCode=Single&Admin_Num=43601001&Dpt=LG&RngHigh=
 

autosurgeon

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Is this it:

"Licensed premises" means any portion of a building, structure, room,
or enclosure
on real estate that is owned, leased, used, controlled, or
operated by a licensee in the conduct of the business at the location for
which the licensee is licensed by the commission, except when otherwise
specified by commission rule or written commission order.

http://www.state.mi.us/orr/emi/admincode.asp?AdminCode=Single&Admin_Num=43601001&Dpt=LG&RngHigh=


Yep that is it!

The 2 highlighted parts are what is so important!

It also blows a huge hole in the Arts Eats Beats argument that the entire festival is a PFZ due to this statute!
 
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oohrahboy

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thanks

thanks guys you have been a great help, ok from what i got out of all this is that i will be fine walking the mackinaw bridge while ocing, and i will be fine ocing around the campgrounds as long as i dont go into the store while ocing, obviusly im fine walking around town. thank god for this web site
 

oohrahboy

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last time we stayed in a hotel in grayling. This year we are staying in gaylord. I am going up there with my wife and in-laws.

oh i see you dont stay in town, well not that i can blame you it does get really crowded up there, we have to reserve our campsite the year before, we get the same one every year.

well maybe ill still see you up there, ill be the other guy ocing :lol:

oh and by the way i carry a nickle plated colt lawman, so if you see one in mackinaw chances are its attached to my hip, so feel free to say hi
 
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