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    BREAKING! SAF sues in Maryland over 'discretionary' CCW authority

    BREAKING: SAF sues in Maryland over discretionary carry



    The Bellevue, WA-based Second Amendment Foundation is at it again, this time filing a federal lawsuit on behalf of a Maryland man whose gun permit renewal was refused because he could not demonstrate “a reasonable precaution against apprehended danger.”



    Thanks to a 25-year-old state statute here in Washington, and a concealed carry law that dates back to 1935, this would not happen in the Evergreen State. More about that in a moment.


    http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seatt...ue-law-is-best

    Or try this:

    http://tinyurl.com/24bz7dr

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    I am still waiting for this article to be posted:

    BREAKING: SAF sues in Alabama over bogus Disorderly Conduct charge

    The Bellevue, WA-based Second Amendment Foundation is at it again, this time filing a federal lawsuit on behalf of two Alabama men who were arrested and charged with Disorderly Conduct merely for the legal open carrying of firearms.

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    Just click on the links.
    It's there!

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    I certainly hope that SAF will bring up the three main hypocritical policies practiced by MSP with regards to issuing MC PTCHs...

    1) MD has no training requirement for most non-job-related permits (even "non-restricted" permits). Proof of training in MD is only required for "professional" permits, like security guards, bail recovery agents, and bank couriers,

    2) MD has no psychological/medical background check requirement in their permitting process, (like NC, and several other states) and

    3) MSP has stated in the media and in official testimony before the GA that the reason they don't have any recoprocity agreements with ANY other state is because the MD "requirements" are so much more stringent than other states, and they simply can't trust other state's LEAs to do in-depth, legitimate, and comprehensive background checks on their permit holders, DESPITE the fact that MD requirements for a CC permit are, in fact LESS stringent than most of their bordering states, and many of the other states in the Mid-Atlantic region.


    I hope Mr. Gura "takes the gloves off" for this one.

    Go, Alan, Go!
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    Also, y'all might bring up the case of Wicomico County State’s Attorney (MD) Davis R. Ruark, who was arrested (and later convicted) for DUI on 22 Feb. 2008, and was ALSO charged with possession of a loaded handgun (a .45 caliber Glock, BTW) while under the influence (but that charge was later dropped). He has a MD PTCH, but it was NOT revoked, DESPITE his DUI conviction. (he did, however, voluntarily surrender his permit for 1 year...)

    http://www.wboc.com/global/story.asp?s=7914361

    http://www.dui.com/dui-library/maryl...o-maryland-dui

    http://sbynews.blogspot.com/2008/05/...al-update.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_R._Ruark

    http://www.pulledover.com/National-D...r-himself.html



    In almost EVERY state in the Mid-Atlantic region, having a recent DUI is grounds for revocation of a CC permit, and will disqualify you from renewal or application for a new permit.

    But apparently, in MD, if you are a State's Attorney and there have been alleged threats on your life, there is a different set of rules that the MSP applies to your permit requirements...
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    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    To me, this is by far the most exciting big deal gun rights case yet. It could potentially lead to mandatory shall issue in all 50 states. I don't want to get too happy to quickly, but this is positively the best piece of anti gun ban news I've heard in years.

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    2) MD has no psychological/medical background check requirement in their permitting process, (like NC, and several other states) and
    They do, they actually have a waver you have to sign on the app form so they can examine your medical records. It sounds like the medical records that are supposed to be confidental, like your family Dr's files on you. Thats going too far IMHO. If I am wrong, then it must be they want to look for wether you were committed for mental health reasons for more than 30 days or if you had an involuntary commital. Same stuff they look at when you are buying a gun.

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