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    Open carry identification

    Newbie here. Please don't fault me for getting the hell out of Kalifornia (I left 3 months ago for NM where anyone can open carry with no problems). Anyway, the other day I was thinking about the Brady lady that was holding up a sign in Starbucks. She told the news, "How am I supposed to know whether these people that open carry are criminals or not?" Well, the next time there is a open carry meeting, why don't we all show up in raid shirts or raid jackets that say GOODGUY on the back? We should just all make our own. That way the public and the police all know who we are. I haven't seen any decent pre-made jackets yet, but I did see that XS sight systems is selling a t-shirt just for this reason. That could be like the Open Carry uniform or something. Just check out the XS website.

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    Great idea. While you're at it, get some matching badges, hats, and drive an auctioned off crown vic. Then you'd be really tacticool!

    One of the main points of this open carry moment is to communicate the idea that carrying a firearm is NORMAL and that the people that do it are NORMAL. Wearing a uniform to set you apart from everyone else is not only unusual, but it also implies that you essentially agree with the anti's.

    Wear your gun, be yourself, mind your own business. No more, no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreQo View Post
    Great idea. While you're at it, get some matching badges, hats, and drive an auctioned off crown vic. Then you'd be really tacticool!

    One of the main points of this open carry moment is to communicate the idea that carrying a firearm is NORMAL and that the people that do it are NORMAL. Wearing a uniform to set you apart from everyone else is not only unusual, but it also implies that you essentially agree with the anti's.

    Wear your gun, be yourself, mind your own business. No more, no less.
    Wow, too much caffeine. Not the direction I was going at all. "Uniform" can mean something to associate. It doesn't have to mean paramilitary commando uniform. Take a deep breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreQo View Post
    Great idea. While you're at it, get some matching badges, hats, and drive an auctioned off crown vic. Then you'd be really tacticool!

    One of the main points of this open carry moment is to communicate the idea that carrying a firearm is NORMAL and that the people that do it are NORMAL. Wearing a uniform to set you apart from everyone else is not only unusual, but it also implies that you essentially agree with the anti's.

    Wear your gun, be yourself, mind your own business. No more, no less.
    You're reading too much into his suggestion, which seems to be a really tongue-in-cheek way of mocking the antis. It's pretty funny IMO and nothing at all wrong with wearing a shirt that says "GOOD GUY" while at an OC meet. Think of it like going to a concert and wearing a band shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex cop View Post
    Newbie here. Please don't fault me for getting the hell out of Kalifornia (I left 3 months ago for NM where anyone can open carry with no problems). Anyway, the other day I was thinking about the Brady lady that was holding up a sign in Starbucks. She told the news, "How am I supposed to know whether these people that open carry are criminals or not?" Well, the next time there is a open carry meeting, why don't we all show up in raid shirts or raid jackets that say GOODGUY on the back? We should just all make our own. That way the public and the police all know who we are. I haven't seen any decent pre-made jackets yet, but I did see that XS sight systems is selling a t-shirt just for this reason. That could be like the Open Carry uniform or something. Just check out the XS website.
    I've heard that question from LEO's too... and my answer is the same to all who ask it...

    "Until they do something illegal it is none of your business if someone has a gun."
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    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    new T-shirt ideas:

    OPEN CARRY
    We're not the ones
    you should worry about


    What part of
    Shall not be infringed
    confuses you?

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    I am seeing a black jacket or T shirt with "NORMAL" plastered across the front and back.

    I actually have seen an "INNOCENT BYSTANDER" T shirt.
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    Ex Cop ???


    A screen name like Ex cop would seem to suggest either a former LEO or a wannabe.

    An officer would/should know that what is written on a T-shirt means nothing! How many times have you seen T-shirts emblazoned with FBI, ICE, Homeland Security etc, etc.

    If the OP is really making an attempt to be sarcastically funny, it is incumbent upon him to so indicate. I laughed , but not for the reasons some might think. I'll reserve comment on that ........for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    A screen name like Ex cop would seem to suggest either a former LEO or a wannabe.

    An officer would/should know that what is written on a T-shirt means nothing! How many times have you seen T-shirts emblazoned with FBI, ICE, Homeland Security etc, etc.

    If the OP is really making an attempt to be sarcastically funny, it is incumbent upon him to so indicate. I laughed , but not for the reasons some might think. I'll reserve comment on that ........for now.
    Actually, having GOODGUY on the back of your shirt means just as much as having "Gun Free Zone" posted at the front door of your business. The liberals say so. So lets accommodate them so they have one less thing to complain about ;-)

    And no, I'm not a wannabe. I'm a hasbeen.

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    You are responding to specious and dishonest question. The Brady lady really doesn't want an answer to her 'question.' It's rhetoric, stated in the form of a question. That's what makes it dishonest.

    What makes is specious is that the room could have been filled with CC people, either law abiding citizens with permits or felony gang bangers, and she would have never known and wouldn't have had her preposterous sign.

    If you feel highly motivated about ID, photocopy your CC permit, have it laminated, and wear it around your neck. But then you'd be playing into her hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex cop View Post
    Actually, having GOODGUY on the back of your shirt means just as much as having "Gun Free Zone" posted at the front door of your business. The liberals say so. So lets accommodate them so they have one less thing to complain about ;-)

    And no, I'm not a wannabe. I'm a hasbeen.
    Guess most of us here "hasbeen" this or that so you should be in good company - welcome aboard.

    GFZ (gun free zone) - never have gotten a charge out any one of them. They're self-defeating.

    T-shirts with messages, even good ones, just aren't my style. There are those that like them though. If you really are endorsing the matching T-shirt thing, outfit all of your family and relatives and I'm sure we can get somebody to take the pictures when the clan gathers

    OCing as we go about our normal daily lives is the mantra here - just normal people being responsible. No arguments on the side of the road, no in-your-face attitude, but rather a pleasant demeanor with a good solid knowledge of the applicable statutes has proven to effective.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Guess most of us here "hasbeen" this or that so you should be in good company - welcome aboard.

    GFZ (gun free zone) - never have gotten a charge out any one of them. They're self-defeating.

    T-shirts with messages, even good ones, just aren't my style. There are those that like them though. If you really are endorsing the matching T-shirt thing, outfit all of your family and relatives and I'm sure we can get somebody to take the pictures when the clan gathers

    OCing as we go about our normal daily lives is the mantra here - just normal people being responsible. No arguments on the side of the road, no in-your-face attitude, but rather a pleasant demeanor with a good solid knowledge of the applicable statutes has proven to effective.
    I used to think the same way. However, Chuck Schumer, Diane Fienstien, Barbara Boxes, Richard Daley, etc., are in full scale attack with their own weapons blazing operating with complete disregard to Title 18 United States Code section 241. We have to do more than have lunch or we'll be trampled to death. "All that takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing". - some attribute this to Edmund Burke, the father of conservatism.

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    I happen to be one of those that think we are winning - see the cup as more than 1/2 full and filling rather than 1/2 empty and draining.

    Still vigilance is the eternal price we must pay.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Still vigilance is the eternal price we must pay.
    I'm in favor of still vigilance, also. Moving-around vigilance is too tiresome.

    No. No. Wait.

    Still vigilance is important because revenooers might find the darn still. And, then what would we drink for recreation?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I'm in favor of still vigilance, also. Moving-around vigilance is too tiresome.

    No. No. Wait.

    Still vigilance is important because revenooers might find the darn still. And, then what would we drink for recreation?


    Mmmm...
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    How many times have you seen T-shirts emblazoned with FBI, ICE, Homeland Security etc, etc.
    Yeah, or DEA on the front and LER on the back!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ex cop View Post
    Newbie here. Please don't fault me for getting the hell out of Kalifornia (I left 3 months ago for NM where anyone can open carry with no problems). Anyway, the other day I was thinking about the Brady lady that was holding up a sign in Starbucks. She told the news, "How am I supposed to know whether these people that open carry are criminals or not?" Well, the next time there is a open carry meeting, why don't we all show up in raid shirts or raid jackets that say GOODGUY on the back? We should just all make our own. That way the public and the police all know who we are. I haven't seen any decent pre-made jackets yet, but I did see that XS sight systems is selling a t-shirt just for this reason. That could be like the Open Carry uniform or something. Just check out the XS website.
    You should tell the news that you don't know whether or not this lady is a criminal...

    But if she really wants to know she can try public records checks, instead of dumb whining.

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    I dunno, personally I don't think I'd ever wear a 'good guy' t-shirt out in public. It's a cute idea, but I don't think most people would get the joke. As far as the lady asking "how do I know that person isn't a criminal?" she might as well be asking how she knows that anyone walking down the street isn't a serial killer. Welcome to the real world where the good guys don't wear capes and the bad guys blend in with the crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreQo View Post
    Great idea. While you're at it, get some matching badges, hats, and drive an auctioned off crown vic. Then you'd be really tacticool!.
    Hah! Oh man I nearly spit up my drink

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    t-shirt....
    front: Go ahead and rob her, I wont interfere.
    back: Back off or the sign gets it!

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    or on the back of a shirt; if you can read this, the criminal got shot, and fell off.

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    I wrote a big long post comparing OC "T" shirts to CC badges....... and decided that maybe, just maybe, this thread is one of those "just for fun" threads..........








    at least I sure hope it is!
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy4count View Post
    new T-shirt ideas:

    OPEN CARRY
    We're not the ones
    you should worry about


    What part of
    Shall not be infringed
    confuses you?
    I like the second suggestion. I might just get a couple of shirts with that on it.

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    It is my opinion that OC "T" shirts with hopefully witty sayings on them are the same thing as CC badges.... juvenile and completely pointless.

    It is also my opinion that if folks were to just carry the damn gun in a responsible manner as they go about their normal day that alone is more than enough of a statement. It is a statement of standing up for what is right regardless of what someone might think... so why spoil it with a "T" shirt message of sucking up to those who don't like it?

    Not to mention that if someone doesn't like seeing a sidearm in plain view a witty "T" shirt isn't going to change their minds........ if they even happen to bother to read what it says.

    Now the above is, as I said, my "opinion".... worth exactly what was paid for it.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    It is my opinion that OC "T" shirts with hopefully witty sayings on them are the same thing as CC badges.... juvenile and completely pointless.

    It is also my opinion that if folks were to just carry the damn gun in a responsible manner as they go about their normal day that alone is more than enough of a statement. It is a statement of standing up for what is right regardless of what someone might think... so why spoil it with a "T" shirt message of sucking up to those who don't like it?

    Not to mention that if someone doesn't like seeing a sidearm in plain view a witty "T" shirt isn't going to change their minds........ if they even happen to bother to read what it says.

    Now the above is, as I said, my "opinion".... worth exactly what was paid for it.
    Exactly. Smart-ass does not change hearts and minds. It just gets those who already agree with you to applaud you. It's good for the ego and not much more.

    Rationality, responsibility, and civility change hearts and minds.

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