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    Why to carry One in the chamber always!!

    Thank you to Marc MacYoung for developing this!



    The 5-Stages-of-Violent-Crime is an internationally recognized system developed by Marc MacYoung which is utilized by police, military, firearms and self-defense instructors. The system works to outline the process that a criminal works thru before the attack even happens.

    The first 3 stages are where effective self-defense awareness training can get you out of trouble. These 3 stages are the setup.
    Stage 1 - The Intent
    In its simplest form, the Intent is where the criminal is mentally and physically prepared to commit violence. By being able to recognize potential psychological and verbal "tells," your awareness should kick you into a state of orange, or warning mode.
    Stage 2 - The Interview
    The interview is a criminal process you want to fail. This is the criminal's attempt through verbal interaction to get a sense of you as a potential target. For example, are you too trusting, do you allow him in close, do you exhibit fear in your body language? A sample interview would be asking for directions or the time. How do you react? Your body language and your reaction allows the criminal to decide whether or not you are a suitable target that provides the least amount of resistance. By understanding the various interviews used, your awareness training should again kick you into a state of orange.
    Stage 3 - The Positioning
    Positioning is simply a fancy word for opportunity. Just like when we discuss the crime triangle, without opportunity, there can be no crime. Opportunity is about the criminal placing himself in a place where he can successfully attack you quickly and effectively. Are you aware of your surroundings? Are you isolated? Do you have an escape route? Can you reach help quickly? Can you draw attention if things go south? Again, all of these are important questions in your awareness plan.
    The next two stages are about the act of violence, where your physical self-defense skills may have to be utilized. They also only happen when the above 3 stages work. Meaning, if a criminal can't set you up, he most likely won't attack you.
    Stage 4 - The Attack
    The criminal has now decided that you are a safe target and is commencing the attack to get what he wants. Your goal in any attack is survival and escape employing whatever verbal or physical self-defense tools you have available to you.
    Stage 5 - The Reaction
    The reaction is the most dangerous of the five stages. It's how the criminal feels about himself for what he has just done; and how he views your reaction to what he has done. The volatility at this stage can turn a simple assault to a rape to a murder.
    Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

    Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

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    Good post.

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    It isn't just about carrying (let alone with one in the chamber). It's about much more.

    The reason I never posted any of this stuff on the open forum is because well... some people it just can't help, and there are others it shouldn't.

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    I found it with a simple google search in 245 locations on the web.

    At that point I figured why not post it. Also the reason I titled it as I did is that is the one foolish thing that so many people who carry do!
    Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

    Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

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    Quote Originally Posted by autosurgeon View Post
    I found it with a simple google search in 245 locations on the web.

    At that point I figured why not post it. Also the reason I titled it as I did is that is the one foolish thing that so many people who carry do!
    No chastisement here. My post was not directed towards you. Just a simple word of caution to others.

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    Gotcha!
    Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

    Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

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    Quote Originally Posted by autosurgeon View Post
    I found it with a simple google search in 245 locations on the web.

    At that point I figured why not post it. Also the reason I titled it as I did is that is the one foolish thing that so many people who carry do!
    I have also known some who thought it was either illegal to have one in the chamber or that it wasn't safe to carry that way! I instantly explained the simple truth to them!Thanks for posting this info!
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    Good points made here. I have for a lifetime traveled in condition red to maybe orange. Violence always comes fast and unexpected. I carry cocked and locked and when I draw I don't even think about dropping the safety it just happens after decades of single action carry. Cocked, locked ready to rock! And always hoping I never need to use it.


    Quote Originally Posted by autosurgeon View Post
    Thank you to Marc MacYoung for developing this!



    The 5-Stages-of-Violent-Crime is an internationally recognized system developed by Marc MacYoung which is utilized by police, military, firearms and self-defense instructors. The system works to outline the process that a criminal works thru before the attack even happens.

    The first 3 stages are where effective self-defense awareness training can get you out of trouble. These 3 stages are the setup.
    Stage 1 - The Intent
    In its simplest form, the Intent is where the criminal is mentally and physically prepared to commit violence. By being able to recognize potential psychological and verbal "tells," your awareness should kick you into a state of orange, or warning mode.
    Stage 2 - The Interview
    The interview is a criminal process you want to fail. This is the criminal's attempt through verbal interaction to get a sense of you as a potential target. For example, are you too trusting, do you allow him in close, do you exhibit fear in your body language? A sample interview would be asking for directions or the time. How do you react? Your body language and your reaction allows the criminal to decide whether or not you are a suitable target that provides the least amount of resistance. By understanding the various interviews used, your awareness training should again kick you into a state of orange.
    Stage 3 - The Positioning
    Positioning is simply a fancy word for opportunity. Just like when we discuss the crime triangle, without opportunity, there can be no crime. Opportunity is about the criminal placing himself in a place where he can successfully attack you quickly and effectively. Are you aware of your surroundings? Are you isolated? Do you have an escape route? Can you reach help quickly? Can you draw attention if things go south? Again, all of these are important questions in your awareness plan.
    The next two stages are about the act of violence, where your physical self-defense skills may have to be utilized. They also only happen when the above 3 stages work. Meaning, if a criminal can't set you up, he most likely won't attack you.
    Stage 4 - The Attack
    The criminal has now decided that you are a safe target and is commencing the attack to get what he wants. Your goal in any attack is survival and escape employing whatever verbal or physical self-defense tools you have available to you.
    Stage 5 - The Reaction
    The reaction is the most dangerous of the five stages. It's how the criminal feels about himself for what he has just done; and how he views your reaction to what he has done. The volatility at this stage can turn a simple assault to a rape to a murder.
    Exo 22:2 "If anyone catches a thief breaking in and hits him so that he dies, he is not guilty of murder.
    Luke 22:36: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luk 11:21 "When a strong man, with all his weapons ready, guards his own house, all his belongings are safe.

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    I just skip the safety altogether and run with the XD.

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