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Where have you been legally kicked out of for OC'ing?

Lovenox

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Aug 3, 2010
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538
Location
Olympia
I was thinking perhaps we should spread the word to do a 'OCOTT' and not take our business to them. I understand it's there right as a private establishment but then again it's our right to refuse them our money.
 

bennie1986

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Jul 30, 2009
Messages
368
Location
Spokane, Washington, USA
Wal-Mart in north Spokane but they called to apologize.

River park square mall in downtown Spokane.

Sharp Shooting indoor range should not be supported. I wasn’t OCing and I didn’t get kicked out but I brought up Opencarry.org and they told me anyone involved with this sight were idiots and were going to get gun rights taken away. I emailed the owner to complain about how I had been ridiculed in front of other customers and she backed up her employees comments.
 

Lovenox

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Location
Olympia
Wal-Mart in north Spokane but they called to apologize.

River park square mall in downtown Spokane.

Sharp Shooting indoor range should not be supported. I wasn’t OCing and I didn’t get kicked out but I brought up Opencarry.org and they told me anyone involved with this sight were idiots and were going to get gun rights taken away. I emailed the owner to complain about how I had been ridiculed in front of other customers and she backed up her employees comments.

If I am in Spokane I will make sure not to go to Sharp Shooting. They are the idiots.
 

onlurker

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Dec 15, 2009
Messages
251
Location
Everett, Washington, USA
Sharp Shooting indoor range should not be supported. I wasn’t OCing and I didn’t get kicked out but I brought up Opencarry.org and they told me anyone involved with this sight were idiots and were going to get gun rights taken away. I emailed the owner to complain about how I had been ridiculed in front of other customers and she backed up her employees comments.

That's good to know, now I don't feel guilty about being undercharged.
 

bennie1986

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Jul 30, 2009
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Location
Spokane, Washington, USA
That's good to know, now I don't feel guilty about being undercharged.

I had already spent so much money there it make me sick to this day! If I could only keep one rifle and one sidearm out of what I have it would be the two guns I got there which happen to be the most expensive in my collection. My Smith and Wesson 1911 for about a grand and my Smith and Wesson M&P15 $1150 and another $500 in parts for it I also got from there.
 

amzbrady

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Mar 1, 2009
Messages
3,521
Location
Marysville, Washington, USA
Wal-Mart in north Spokane but they called to apologize.

River park square mall in downtown Spokane.

Sharp Shooting indoor range should not be supported. I wasn’t OCing and I didn’t get kicked out but I brought up Opencarry.org and they told me anyone involved with this sight were idiots and were going to get gun rights taken away. I emailed the owner to complain about how I had been ridiculed in front of other customers and she backed up her employees comments.

Did they email back, if so post it.
 

bennie1986

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Jul 30, 2009
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Location
Spokane, Washington, USA
Did they email back, if so post it.

This was my email to the owner...

>I was in the evening of Friday 8/14/09. I was browsing for my next firearm
>purchase. In conversing with your employees I mentioned that I had
>recently been in some legal trouble with carrying in a park. I also
>mentioned that I was working with opencarry.org for support with
>information and member contribution with funds for my legal fees. Before
>I was able to explain any of that your employees proceeded to label anyone
>involved with opencarry.org an idiot, i.e. myself. You have a large
>selection of goods, fair prices, in indoor range that’s close by, and an
>employee that I went to grade school with (Mike T, who was not present
>during this situation) whom I respect and enjoy doing business with. All
>this jeopardized by personal opinion. I was emotionally assaulted,
>humiliated, and betrayed. The two firearms I have purchased from your
>shop are the most expensive of my collection among several accessories. It
>really bothers me that I will no longer be doing any business with you in
>the future as I really liked the shop and respected the folks who worked
>there. My best goes to you and your business but please keep in mind that
>regardless of personal opinion customers should never be treated this way.
>I hope this serves as a learning experience for those involved.
>Thank you,
>Benjamin Eierdam

This was her reply...

I knew of the situation before you emailed. Yes, you should not have been
treated that way. I do have some sympathy for the employee though. We get in
the crossfire with folks who wish to push the envelop on rules and legislatures
asking for my help in changing the rules so that there is no gray area. While I
agree you should not ever need a permit to exercise your rights, carry your gun
open, etc. The reality is not what I "want" but what is perceived to be the
law. I fight daily to keep our rights and myself and staff get pushed from all
directions.

Personally, I am always going to go out of my way to avoid "bad" contact with
law enforcement. I don't have the time or the money to fight. I prefer to take
my fight through legislative channels.

I appreciate you past business and wish you well with your future.

Robin
 

Lovenox

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Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Messages
538
Location
Olympia
This was my email to the owner...

>I was in the evening of Friday 8/14/09. I was browsing for my next firearm
>purchase. In conversing with your employees I mentioned that I had
>recently been in some legal trouble with carrying in a park. I also
>mentioned that I was working with opencarry.org for support with
>information and member contribution with funds for my legal fees. Before
>I was able to explain any of that your employees proceeded to label anyone
>involved with opencarry.org an idiot, i.e. myself. You have a large
>selection of goods, fair prices, in indoor range that’s close by, and an
>employee that I went to grade school with (Mike T, who was not present
>during this situation) whom I respect and enjoy doing business with. All
>this jeopardized by personal opinion. I was emotionally assaulted,
>humiliated, and betrayed. The two firearms I have purchased from your
>shop are the most expensive of my collection among several accessories. It
>really bothers me that I will no longer be doing any business with you in
>the future as I really liked the shop and respected the folks who worked
>there. My best goes to you and your business but please keep in mind that
>regardless of personal opinion customers should never be treated this way.
>I hope this serves as a learning experience for those involved.
>Thank you,
>Benjamin Eierdam

This was her reply...

I knew of the situation before you emailed. Yes, you should not have been
treated that way. I do have some sympathy for the employee though. We get in
the crossfire with folks who wish to push the envelop on rules and legislatures
asking for my help in changing the rules so that there is no gray area. While I
agree you should not ever need a permit to exercise your rights, carry your gun
open, etc. The reality is not what I "want" but what is perceived to be the
law. I fight daily to keep our rights and myself and staff get pushed from all
directions.

Personally, I am always going to go out of my way to avoid "bad" contact with
law enforcement. I don't have the time or the money to fight. I prefer to take
my fight through legislative channels.

I appreciate you past business and wish you well with your future.

Robin


Wow. She has sympathy for the employee that called you an idiot? Wow.
 

Leatherneck

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2010
Messages
281
Location
Des Moines, Washington, USA
I guess times have changed.
Did you happen to see any signs that read "The customer is never right"?

I haven't been kicked out of anywhere, but that's because I'll put my shirt over my piece if I enter a place that doesn't allow me to protect myself (except fed buildings, 21+, etc.).
 

sempercarry

Regular Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2008
Messages
378
Location
America
The Brothers motorsports in Bremerton. I was just about to buy a service package for around 80 bucks when the manager came up and asked me why I was carrying like "that" in his store. I told him I carry like this everywhere and he then asked me to leave. I put my wallet back in my pocket and walked out.
 
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