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    Open Carry "Threatening"

    Hi all, I have a friend that OC's in Luisiana but he is not a member here. When talking to him he was told by someone that open carry was legal, but as soon as someone felt "threatened" by your weapon and reported you, you would be guilty of a crime. I am not from here, but I am certain that is FALSE. Now, do you know of any law that says otherwise? Is the absence of a law that implies such proof that what he heard is not true? Just curious if you all could cite something regarding this.
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    Ask him exactly what crime you would be committing. Then have him cite the Louisiana RS for that--see what he says.

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    Whoever told him that is misinformed at best, full of $#!+ at worst. By that logic if you happen to be a person who is average height, and someone who is 7'5" walks up next to you and you feel intimidated is he guilty of a crime? A threat requires an action under the law. You cannot be threatened by someone who isn't behaving illegally or even interacting with you. You can feel intimidated, which is different and quite frankly, their problem.
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    Open carry got my permit to carry suspended.
    Open carry got Kurt Kirby in washington arrested.
    Open carry got danbus arrested in NC.
    Open carry got jp49911 charged with GATTOP and his house searched and charged with child neglect or something.
    Open carry got I OC nothingwronghere harrassed.
    Open carry has got a lot of people in trouble. Do you think Jesus Gonzalez in WI would be in trouble he is in now if he had never open carried?

    Open carry, even when legal, can get you arrested or harrassed. Once you are on the police radar you are there for life. It doesn't go away because you are in the database, arrested or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwikrnu View Post
    Open carry got my permit to carry suspended.
    Open carry got Kurt Kirby in washington arrested.
    Open carry got danbus arrested in NC.
    Open carry got jp49911 charged with GATTOP and his house searched and charged with child neglect or something.
    Open carry got I OC nothingwronghere harrassed.
    Open carry has got a lot of people in trouble. Do you think Jesus Gonzalez in WI would be in trouble he is in now if he had never open carried?

    Open carry, even when legal, can get you arrested or harrassed. Once you are on the police radar you are there for life. It doesn't go away because you are in the database, arrested or not.
    There is a BIG difference between what you THINK you can do and what you can actually do without being willing to take LEGAL ACTION to prove your rights...something a lot of people here are confused about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by estcrh View Post
    There is a BIG difference between what you THINK you can do and what you can actually do without being willing to take LEGAL ACTION to prove your rights...something a lot of people here are confused about.
    Nothing is a guarantee. Many cops don't know the laws and night court judges, magistrates or judicial commissioners may not either. It is legal to open carry in Alabama, but some Alabama guys were arrested last month at a Starbucks. Anytime you go out of the house you should carry a voice recorder because you never know when you'll meet the cop who doesn't know the law. Without a recording it is his word against yours and that almost never turnes out well in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwikrnu View Post
    Nothing is a guarantee. Many cops don't know the laws and night court judges, magistrates or judicial commissioners may not either. It is legal to open carry in Alabama, but some Alabama guys were arrested last month at a Starbucks. Anytime you go out of the house you should carry a voice recorder because you never know when you'll meet the cop who doesn't know the law. Without a recording it is his word against yours and that almost never turnes out well in court.
    In that case you have to find out if its legal to record conversations with out permission in your state,,it never stops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwikrnu View Post
    Open carry got my permit to carry suspended.
    Open carry got Kurt Kirby in washington arrested.
    Open carry got danbus arrested in NC.
    Open carry got jp49911 charged with GATTOP and his house searched and charged with child neglect or something.
    Open carry got I OC nothingwronghere harrassed.
    Open carry has got a lot of people in trouble. Do you think Jesus Gonzalez in WI would be in trouble he is in now if he had never open carried?

    Open carry, even when legal, can get you arrested or harrassed. Once you are on the police radar you are there for life. It doesn't go away because you are in the database, arrested or not.
    Most of us who have been involved in the OC movement, or any other movement that is not politically correct, promotes an expansion of personal liberty (and the requisite decrease in gooberment intervention,) promotes an expansion of 2A rights, or otherwise favor the gooberment's monopoly on force are already on their lists and in their databases. Your posts, credit card activity, and phone conversations are tracked and recorded for use against you at a future time. To kid yourself otherwise is delusional at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Confederate View Post
    Most of us who have been involved in the OC movement, or any other movement that is not politically correct, promotes an expansion of personal liberty (and the requisite decrease in gooberment intervention,) promotes an expansion of 2A rights, or otherwise favor the gooberment's monopoly on force are already on their lists and in their databases. Your posts, credit card activity, and phone conversations are tracked and recorded for use against you at a future time. To kid yourself otherwise is delusional at best.
    Check into the meaning of...PARANOID..in your dictionary. Are you doing something to worry about? Anyway since you are going to be a cop you will benefit from that information database when you stop someone wouldnt you? Im just saying.....

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    Didn't the OP ask about Louisiana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by estcrh View Post
    Check into the meaning of...PARANOID..in your dictionary. Are you doing something to worry about? Anyway since you are going to be a cop you will benefit from that information database when you stop someone wouldnt you? Im just saying.....
    Am I doing something that I should be worried about? Nope. Am I doing anything the gooberment would be worried about. Most likely. I believe in individual liberty, non-existent firearms laws, and a feuderal gooberment about a quarter of its current size and severely limited in scope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Confederate View Post
    Am I doing something that I should be worried about? Nope. Am I doing anything the gooberment would be worried about. Most likely. I believe in individual liberty, non-existent firearms laws, and a feuderal gooberment about a quarter of its current size and severely limited in scope.

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    Non-existent firearms laws??? Even for convicted violent criminals? 18 yr olds can carry a full auto? I hope your vision of the future never happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by estcrh View Post
    Non-existent firearms laws??? Even for convicted violent criminals? 18 yr olds can carry a full auto? I hope your vision of the future never happens.
    Um, 18 year olds already do carry fully automatic weapons every day. They use those tools in defense of this country. I guess it's not OK for them to have their automatic weapons right? Or do they get some special pass because they wear a uniform?

    How many violent criminals do you think will be left walking the streets if everyone was armed to the teeth. I don't seem to recall any blood flowing in the streets before GCA '68. You champion 2A rights only when it suits you and your self defense ideology.

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    I was talking to an older gentlemen recently who's lived in St. Tammany parish his entire life, and he said that in the 50's they had ONE constable for the entire parish. He said that folks carried guns with them all the time, and that they used to take care of themselves and their neighbors.

    Imagine that. It seems like a world away from where we are today.

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    I am OP, and I am confused.
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    It was common for people to openly walk around town with firearms--either long or handgun in St Tammany Parish in the late fifties and early sixties. When going duck hunting my brother and I would use his motorcycle for transportation--stopping at Bosco's for breakfast at three am we would walk into the restaurant carrying the shotguns, put them in the corner with the ones already there and eat. No one even looked up.

    I used to carry my shotgun on the handle bars of my bicycle and ride around town looking for a good place to squirrel hunt--we frequently did so where the park is now(behind Times Bar and Grill).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Confederate View Post
    Am I doing something that I should be worried about? Nope. Am I doing anything the gooberment would be worried about. Most likely. I believe in individual liberty, non-existent firearms laws, and a feuderal gooberment about a quarter of its current size and severely limited in scope.

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    Removed? What did I miss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRAMARINE View Post
    Removed? What did I miss?
    Why dont you send PRIVATE MESSAGES to each other when you want to gossip and leave the forum posts for people who want to talk about open carry.

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    Open Carry got me Arrested in Georgia for Reckless Conduct.
    That does not mean that I have broken the Law, only that I have been accused for it.
    Open Carry is not Illegal, and does not equate to Disorderly or Reckless Conduct, and The Courts have ruled it so.
    The question here is: Are you willing to go above and beyond to prove to others the Validity of your Conduct?
    I am willing to do so, but..., I would hope that others would be too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aadvark View Post
    Open Carry got me Arrested in Georgia for Reckless Conduct.
    That does not mean that I have broken the Law, only that I have been accused for it.
    Open Carry is not Illegal, and does not equate to Disorderly or Reckless Conduct, and The Courts have ruled it so.
    The question here is: Are you willing to go above and beyond to prove to others the Validity of your Conduct?
    I am willing to do so, but..., I would hope that others would be too.
    I have a residence in Atlanta and would like to hear were you were and what happened in your case if you dont mind letting us know.

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