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    Exclamation Kel Tec PF9 Replaces Broken PT745

    I'm finished cleaning and oiling my PT745. I've got the day off from work so I take my time to gather my ammunition and head to a new shooting range. I bring both my Hi Point .40SW and my Taurus Millennium Pro .45 (latest generation)

    When I walk in, I'm Open Carrying (of course) and the clerk is interested in my firearm. We exchange kind words about the Taurus and I head into the range for the first time. I like it- it's okay!- it's called The Silver Bullet (Denver).

    I set up and fire my PT745 first. All goes well through 5 or 6 clips. Uh Oh. Trouble... my clip is failing to secure inside the pistol. The magazine release is not jammed. The action on the release functions well enough.

    Crap... I just paid for an hour of BANG BANG and here I am with a pistol failure above and beyond a tap and rack.

    Taking advantage of the PT745's Quick Take Down pin- I had the slide off to further examine the inside of the grip. I found that the catch on the magazine release has completely rounded out. Made of metal- the shiny round polished ghost of a mag catch caught my eye as I lifted the frame to the fluorescence. ****.. I'm screwed on this one.

    A wave of disappointment rushed over me. I felt like the people behind me were staring at me the whole time as I fiddled with my pistol... Hadn't fired a round in 10 minutes. I assembled my pistol and rushed to my Hi Point. I had earlier just opened the magazine lips for the first time. This was going to assure that I could fully load my magazine without a FTF on my second round.

    Well.. even a little more embarrassment here but not to bad.. Had 20 minutes left.. My HI Point was able to fire through the first 6 rounds flawlessly every time. Somewhere in the middle of the clip, though, there would be another jam. Bullets getting jammed in the chamber- looks like I need to Tighten the lips just a little bit. I decided not to get into it at the time and just finish my time.. One jam after another. Most likely never got through a whole mag without that jam.


    Okay so first thing is first... I'm hurting. I just realized my daily carry piece is down and out for the count. It's going back to Taurus. But wait.. would it be possible this shooting range/gun store may have a replacement piece? I paid for my time and asked- they didn't. I was bummed. Could I reverse my ambidextrous mag release to at least make it work for now? Hmm.. I took down the pistol again in the waiting room for the range. I did a quick reverse after looking up directions online on my cell phone. Did Not solve my problem- at all. The mag was able to catch but the TINIEST smallest slightest bump and the mag fell right out. As if it only worked if it was cocked at an angle and fell out easily.

    Okay I can't carry the Hi Point.. Not without a mag lip adjustment and not anyway because my .40 is half my body weight. I said **** it and committed my last few dollars in my pocket to a new pistol.

    I said, this time, I wouldn't buy used like I had with the Taurus. I said this time I would buy something new. I was sending the Taurus back to the Miami repair shop and thus getting my Taurus back. I had $300 to spend so I went to my favorite gun shop.. I drove to G&G Guns (Denver). After waiting for Warren to draw his attention my way- I pleaded with him about my situation. He had no replacement part either but did recommend a guy in town that would work on it for me. Well I knew then I had to get a new piece so we were able to handle a few pistols and chat about my replacement and what it should be. I Suggested a pocket pistol as so it could be my Backup Gun (BUG) when I get my .45 back. I asked about those LCP and KelTec 380s. I found the 9mm Kel Tec PF 9 sitting in the same case. New. We were able to make a deal on a price.

    I drove home, first, to do my research.. Read all about the PF 9... Returned with $300.


    I have a new PF 9; blued finish- hydra shock 9 hollow points-

    I carry fully loaded- no external safety but the trigger is a long pull and is double action only.


    More on the PF 9 after I'm able to shoot my first 50 or 100 rounds.
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    I had a PF9 for a while. Really liked it! Easy to carry and shoot. I had the magazine finger extension so it fit my hand very well and really helped my accuracy and followup shots. Not to mention made recoil much easier to deal with. Wish I still had it. Will get another, soon I hope.

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    One of my neighbors carries a PF-9 as a CC piece when we goes out for evening walks. He seems to really like it, and says it's reliable.

    I still haven't convinced him to OC though...
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    I have the P11 and love it. Be sure to visit the TechWerks and Discussion Forum sections of Kel Tec Owners Group at http://www.ktog.org/

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    I don't have any Kel Tec pistols but I do own a SUB 2000 in 9mm. It handles well and has been flawless so far. I think you made a good purchase.


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    Pf9

    I love my PF9. I use FMJ for range plinking, and Hornady Critical Defense for actual carry. Also for carrying I use a Fobus Compact Paddle holster C21B. I think I paid less than $20 on E-Bay.
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    Hey guys nothing new over here in this sector. I have yet to fire my new PF9. Still a daily carry. Trust me I have faith that the pistol will go bang at least the first few times I have to pull the trigger. I carry loaded everyday if anyone was wondering. I feel completely comfortable knowing what it takes to pull that hammer back and release it. I carry with the trigger guarded however style I decide.

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    No offense here, but it sounds like you need to stop buying cheap junk and spend good money on a better product. I'm not trying to outright flame you here, because when you're on a tight budget you make do with what you can and have at your disposal.

    The Taurus PT line has been well known to be plagued with problems. Search the web and you'll find plenty of complaints, especially regarding the 9mm and the .45ACP. Your HiPoint is actually a step in the downward direction. They work most of the time, but they sure are bulky and they certainly aren't a quality firearm by any means.

    Fortunately for you, you were smart enough to have more than 1 firearm at your disposal. It's a good rule to follow, so keep that in practice!

    Hopefully you won't have problems with the Kel-Tec.

    Now to warn you about your upcoming Taurus customer no-service scenario. Expect a long turn around time as well as them not getting to your firearm for weeks on end. After shipping snafu on their end followed by 15 weeks of waiting for them to even open the box I finally demanded a refund and that took them another 2 weeks. If you go the legal route, be forewarned they WILL try to tell you they do not have a legal department...that's not true. If you're patient and don't mind waiting months on end or sending it back 3 or 4 times they might just get it right, of course by then your warranty will be expired (and you can bet they plan it that way).

    They will also tell you that you are not entitled to a refund and that they must be given a chance to correct the problem. Remember, if you are not satisfied it is your right to demand (not request) a refund and they must comply...if and only if your product is under warranty or poses a hazard to the public that may affect more than just your firearm. The latter falls under product liability law. (IANAL)

    I've dealt with these knuckleheads as well as helped others deal with them...folks that failed to heed my warnings about what to expect, unfortunately.
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    "No offense here, but it sounds like you need to stop buying cheap junk and spend good money on a better product."

    Stopped reading right there. Nice try. Go have fun using your "better product."

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    BTW. What kind of car do you drive? If you drive a 300 horsepower Mustang GT, but I drive a 500 horsepower Corvette Z06.. Should I tell you to stop buying junk and get some real product?

    There's always better out there. You'll figure it out one day.

    When you get that Corvette.. you'll be asked by a Lambo driver to get rid of your cheap junk and get real product.

    When you get that Lambo and a Phantom pulls up next to you.. You'll be asked to get rid of your cheap junk and get real product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heresyourdipstickjimmy View Post

    If you're patient and don't mind waiting months on end or sending it back 3 or 4 times they might just get it right, of course by then your warranty will be expired (and you can bet they plan it that way).

    I've dealt with these knuckleheads as well as helped others deal with them...folks that failed to heed my warnings about what to expect, unfortunately.
    Perhaps the poster can explain how a LIFETIME warranty - and it is a warranty on the gun, not on the lifetime of the person who bought it - can expire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance0812 View Post
    Perhaps the poster can explain how a LIFETIME warranty - and it is a warranty on the gun, not on the lifetime of the person who bought it - can expire?
    It cannot. I am the second owner of my PT745 and when I called Taurus they practically bent over backwards to make sure I was happy. They wanted to send me the part for free, no questions asked- but I insisted I send the whole pistol for a good inspection. They agreed and I told them I would be calling them back in a few days. (Trying to find the part around town but can't) So I am going to be calling them back to setup a repair. Not to much trouble at all.

    I'll keep you updated on the repair process and my Kel Tec break in.

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    I have an kel Tec P11 and I tell you...I don't like it...my p11 has gotten fix twice(sent back to KT), had fail to feed 4-5 times, fail to eject 2 times but whose knows your pf9 might be better than my p11.....Good luck with KT

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